Baldwin says he doesn't feel guilty for 'Rust' shooting: Someone else 'is responsible'

A bit over the top is Liberals wanting to disarm law abiding Gun owners, Defund the Police and releasing violent criminals through a Revolving Door Justice system to go out and re-offend.

 

When you kill someone on accident, you tend to catch a charge for that.

You're also real off on Trump here for some reason.... its odd because it has literally zero relevance to whether or not Alec Baldwin accidentally shot someone. You should see someone about that.

 

That's not hindsight that is proper procedure. Watch the videos.

 

It shouldn't, that's true.

 

And had a live round been in the M16 and you fired it at someone you would have been charged with a homicide. And Baldwin wasn't just the actor he is the producer with the ultimate responsibility.

Post me a cite or a video of a gun safety expert especially one with experience on movie sets that claim he has no responsibilty for what happened.

 

People don't get a death sentence or life in jail about illegal gun ownership etc. We all agreed that this is the way we are going to deal with it. And so that is the full extend of the law. And just because YOU claim to lock up your weapons in a safe, it doesn't mean this is required. Michigan, where that kid shoot around in a school and his parents fled, only goes as far as to recommend to lock up your guns. So why are you doing this ****ass backward democratic idea when you do not have to? Your very own neighbor could just leave it's assault rifle loiter around in the house and an intruder could be using it on you while your busy with getting your weapon out of the safe. Think my man... think. lol

Not seeing how this is related to Baldwin though.

 

We were handed several magazines already loaded with blanks and we were not required to remove each blank to check it. The army would have investigated how a live round was placed in a magazine. It would've gone down as a training exercise accident. Baldwin was not the only producer on the set. But you would have known that if you were up to date on this.

 

Was Baldwin required to check each round after being handed a "cold gun?" Why not hand actors the gun and bullets separately if it is safety procedure to check the bullets?

 

What about it, he is pointing off center to the other side of the guys head THAT is what they are told to do and the director uses camera angles so it looks as if he is not and I can assure you that if the armorer was doing his job there was NOTHING in the gun not even blanks because blanks at that range can serious injure someone.

 

Yes, completely inspect each round in the gun.

 

Actors check and double check weapons they have been handed and none of them ever heard ‘cold gun’ on a set. The set was playing loose and fast with security and staff even quit because of it. The armorer wasn’t even on set at the time and other actors say the armorer always hands the weapon to an actor, not the assistant director.

 

Well it wouldn't be right if @Aleksander Ulyanov didn't at least try and derail the thread with TRUUUUMP

 

Yes! Yes he was

 

Perhaps you should have been courts martialed then

Why we spot check our magazines before, during, and after blank fire training.

26 Sep 2011


This is a incident that I'm sure many people would prefer to forget altogether but I will write about it here given that the topic has come up on Kit Up! recently. While I was attending Ranger School when this happened, I spoke with the medic who packaged the casualty involved and escorted him to the hospital.



Most of you are familiar with conducting blank fire inerations before going to live ammunition during training exercises. This is often a requirement spelled out on risk assessments so that NCOs have to utilize the crawl, walk, run method of training. Tape drills/dry fire, blank fire, live fire. This is especially true during maneuver exercises and CQB training in the shoot house.

In 2004 my unit was conducting training for Direct Action missions and as usual, the platoon conducting the training started off with a blank fire run on the training objective. One Ranger attached his Blank Firing Adapter (BFA) to his M4 and walked over to the wood line to test fire. He found it strange that his BFA popped off during the test fire of blanks and scrounged up another adapter before they hit the objective.



An OPFOR (Opposing Force) had been drawn from outside the unit and these “bad guys” were present on the training objective for the blank fire. The Ranger described above was in the process of clearing the objective when he aimed at and fired on one of the OPFOR. The magazine he had loaded in his rifle had been full of live rounds from the beginning when he test fired his weapon.

The bullet struck the metal rod that is screwed into the barrel of the rifle on the BFA which shot forward as shrapnel. The metal rod struck the OPFOR member “below the belt” severing his femoral artery and taking out one of his testicles in the process. The medic on the scene responded immediately to save his life, later telling me that he had to apply two ratchet (we didn't have the CAT tourniquet at that time) tourniquets to get the bleeding the stop.

The medic remained with the casualty as he was MEDEVAC'd to the hospital. The doctor in the ER freaked out with he saw the tourniquets and told our medic to remove them, an action he refused outright. The doctor had them cut off and the casualty immediately flat lined. Thankfully, the OPFOR member survived but I don't know what his long term prognosis has entailed.

There are a couple of lessons here, one of the big ones is spot checking your subordinate's magazines during training, after you spot check them you have a colleague spot check you because no one is too cool for school no matter how much of a bad ass you think you are. Take a flashlight and look inside the magazine to ensure that every round is a blank. Select a magazine at random from each soldier's kit and download every round in it to be sure. Maybe safety devices like the Blanksafe can help reduce training accidents but leaders still need to inspect to make sure they are being used in the first place.

Kit Up! contributor Jack Murphy is a former Ranger, Special Forces Soldier and is the author of the new military thriller PROMIS: Rhodesia.
https://www.military.com/kitup/2011...ore-during-and-after-blank-fire-training.html

 

I did not know that! That changes things a lot!

 

It would be rather generous to describe Alec Baldwin as an "oddball".
OTOH:

Sociopathy
“Sociopathy refers to a pattern of antisocial behaviors and attitudes, including manipulation, deceit, aggression, and a lack of empathy for others. Sociopathy is a non-diagnostic term, and it is not synonymous with "psychopathy," though the overlap leads to frequent confusion. Sociopaths may or may not break the law, but by exploiting and manipulating others, they violate the trust that the human enterprise runs on.”

Sociopath
“The defining characteristic of the sociopath is a profound lack of conscience—a flaw in the moral compass that typically steers people away from breaking common rules and toward treating others decently. This disconnect, however, may be hidden by a charming demeanor.”
PSYCHOLOGY TODAY, Sociopathy, Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/sociopathy

 

Not seeing it.

 

And a LOT! of innocent people get a death sentence from Criminals carrying illegal weapons committing crimes. I agree that some legal irresponsible Gun owners should not be leaving their Guns around the House for an intruder to steal or use against them, that's just plain STUPID! I have all my Guns locked up, except my Glock with a Laser Dot loaded with 15 rounds of .40 Caliber along with an extra 15 rd magazine that's hidden in a very good, but very accessible hiding spot in case a criminal intruder breaks into my House with bad intentions, my AR15 is saved only if I'm up against insurmountable odds. Hope I Never! need to use it, but if someone breaks into my House that I don't know or recognize, I will ventilate them and then ask questions later if they're still alive. Liberals have created a society in some places where Law abiding citizens cannot rely on Police helping in time, because of Democratic Defunding BS and Criminals these days feel emboldened, because they get a slap on the wrist when caught and then released by Liberal leaning DA's, Prosecutors and Judges. I have Deputized myself Police, Judge and Executioner in my House if a Bad guy comes a callin and breaks in, because that's the World Liberals have created for us. When you have an untrained Liberal idiot like Alec Baldwin waving a Prop Gun around like he's some kind of fake tough guy, Death is a real possibility because they don't have any common sense.

 

Hey, been a fun 9 years but probably my last day on PF. Too many thin skinned folks.

 

Liberals did not create a society that people can be irresponsible without a care in the world, that leads that all them criminals end up with illegally owning weapons. The GOP with the help of the gun lobby created that by being against all kinds of gun control. Are you a member of the NRA, who fanatically lobbies for the sake that people can be irresponsible without a care in the world?

And not seeing what this has to do with Baldwin.

 

MPO, it's no stretch of the imagination that the worst offenders just clean themselves off real nice and pretty and come back as new shinny penny and slowly reemerge as the old penny as the shiny wears off

It's pretty much forums 101 If it's any consolation, you are a past doner so there is that

 

You have no clue what the NRA is about. The real reason we have a problem is lax bond laws and lax blue cities on crime.

 

I would respectifully disagree with you about Liberals not creating a society where irresponsible people can be criminals without a care in the world, because across the board all over the country in cities led by Democrats, Crime is out of control because of their soft on crime revolving door of releasing criminals back on to the streets after police arrest them. There are already plenty of Gun laws that prevent criminals from purchasing Guns, but I have no problem creating new laws to make it more difficult to purchase one, because I don't believe everyone who is legal to own a Gun, should actually have one, but a lot of these Guns were stolen or smuggled over the Swiss Cheese border we have with Mexico. I'm not a member of the NRA and never will be.

 

not seeing what this has to do with Baldwin.

And you're rather fanatic that everybody can do whatever with the weapons in the house, as in loiter them around the house, give it away to whoever, sell it to whoever, etc etc, with impunity,... and demand the police force reserves an unlimited amount of time and resources to catch people who shouldn't be having them.


Nobody wants to pay taxes for that dumb idea.

 

You really don't have a clue what you are talking about plus you jump the shark on 'impunity' nonsense. What is it about law abiding citizens that you dislike?