Barack on Crack? Apparently it couldn't Hurt

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh come on! I just gave you that one and you just missed it. I even styled the word "pointless" for you -- pointless as in points in popularity. It's called deadpan AKA dry humor.

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    So could MAD!
     
  2. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Can you please tell us what you think you learned in your high school economics class? Lmao!
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    hahaha well played communist. The insurance industry must feel that way about him though. Aren't you people greedy heartless bastards that steal peoples money and let them die? That is the public perception these days.

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    That you cant print your way to prosperity. Too bad the left never learned that lesson.

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    Not that far, the President used to freebase a bit. Not much different.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    They didn't teach that in high school. They teach that on nut job conservative sites.
     
  5. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Japan has been printing like crazy. Why aren't they super rich? My grandfather had billions in lira. Am I the heir to a vast fortune? The density of the leftist skull amazes me.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    They are super rich. Their GDP per capita is one of the highest amongst developed countries. In fact for the past 30 years it has grown just as much as the United States. The density of the rightest skull amazes me.

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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Barely keeping up with us despite the lack of 13 million new immigrants, our failed leftist housing policy, and what do they have to show for t? Massive debt. Over 200% of GDP. If your theory were true, they would be richer. Surely Japanese Americans are richer then them. You know that to be true.

    If anything your graph shows that their monetary policies have done nothing to create real wealth and have only added to the debt. Can you see what years they printed the most? If you could print your way to prosperity you would see the bumps, wouldn't you?

    But look at all the nothing their debt bought them when you match to the chart:

    http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/1202/economics/history-of-national-debt-in-japan/

    Growth slowed when printing began in earnest outpacing the economy. Just like it has here.

    Checkout the graphs and let me know. Thanks for posting yours it proved my point.
     
  8. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Lol, we both have one of the highest GDP per capita in the developed world. What more do you want? Hahaha. Conservatives literally have no clue how economies work.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Just because Japan is rich doesn't mean their printing policy did it. That policy is why you see the slow growth later. If every time they did a big round don't you think you would see a big gap between them and us? You do, in the late 80s and 90s but they were printing their way to prosperity then. That was the time they had the most stable currency growth. Again, refer to the charts I linked you. When they stagnated is when they were doing exactly what you propose.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Yet their real gdp per capita grew during that period. Now ask yourself, how can their overall GDP stagnate yet their gdp per capita increase? It's a simple math equation.

    You have to really understand monetary systems to know why Japan functions with such high debt and govt spending. But you are a conservative and already have all the answers figured out, so it's really no use to talk about this subject with you. I guess you should call up the Japanese and tell them that "printing money doesn't create growth"... I'm sure they will take your opinion seriously, lol.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    It grew before too, just faster.

    Because of collectivists that slow their growth.

    and belive the monetary supply should grow with the economy not be printed to hand out to special i terests aka corruption in order to stimulate. Currency is not wealth. If the Governement have us all a trillion dollars tomorrow we wouldn't be richer. It would just rob those that had earned money before hand and cause massive inflation and chaos. Why work for $20 and hour when you got a trillion printed?


    I asked you 20 questions, all of which you have dodged. Please get back to the charts. Explain where you think the debt they are piling on is doing the most good? Then we can reference the currency charts and debt charts and we can see

    Screw em. I am an American, let them figure out their own abenomics failures when their tax burden and cost of living are so high their population ages and declines and their growth slows and then eventually big stagflation and losses to bond holders and big hidden taxes. All for what? So some guys can fool you into thinking printing a bunch of money and giving it to their friends is a good idea so they dot have to lay you a fair interest rate at the bank? No thanks. I earn money for a living I don't politick it out of thin air in effort to stimulate like campaign accounts like Barack Obama GM, solyndra, Tesla, cash for clunkers debacle, 700 billion other money in the American recovery act that no one, I mean not a single person argues was wisely spent by pointing to where it went a and you will dodge this too - no matter how many panama canals adjusted for inflation that money would have purchased. Or a new interstate highway system if you added it to the other highway spending they were doing. Yes, adjusted for inflation. And we even have better tools now and computer efficiencies. Why don't you question this? Why do you just go along with whatever government tells you is going on? Less employment as a % now then before the stimulus or at the bottom of the recession.
     
  12. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Ahhh yes, because there are no other factors that are necessary for economic growth other than government spending, lol.

    Reductio ad absurdum

    I answer all questions. It is doing good because it's preventing massive deflation, keeping interest rates low, and putting enough money in to the economy to continue to increase GDP per capita.

    You have a very amateur knowledge of economics. You would be laughed out of any classroom in the world. But I bet Sarah Palin would agree with you.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    I see all sorts of conclusions, where are the arguments? Supporting facts. If your first chart fails try another.

    Japan had deflation because of a bubble bursting. They should have let the market correct. But they started juicing again and then it happened again and they started juicing again and each time it has to get larger and larger. You know how it is with the drunks and hair of the dog and tolerance to drinking means you need more etc... Same with monetary policy.
     
  14. Gatewood

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    Brilliant! I think you're on to something there. Obama takes a toke on a bong pipe and after a moment's held-breath slowly exhales while speaking in a slightly choked tone of voice, "You Japanese and Chinese need to calm down over the ownership of that piddly little island. You don't see us getting all excited over the probability of the Iranians getting the atom bomb tomorrow, do you?"

    Yeah . . . it could work.
     
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    Really though, imagine if you got Benjamin Netanyahu and whoever's filling in for Arafat these days into a room, and smoked like an ounce. Surely the White House has some ornamental peace pipes lying around.They'd have a deal by the end of the hour.

    Basically: more weed, less John Kerry.
     
  16. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Well the theory is sound. Turn the world leaders on with some mellow weed and then set aside the absolute idiots. If you can remain coherent enough after that to negotiate then you're golden. Unfortunately for fumble-mouthed Kerry, he's not all that coherent even when straight.
     
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    The first chart never failed. Real GDP per capita is one of the most important factors in determining an economies success. You should not be telling Japan what they should have done... there are plenty of intelligent economists out there that do not agree with your opinion. Maybe you should try to figure out why they don't.
     
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    Since when was Obama moonlighting as Trojan Man? What a silly statistic to place in Obama's win column...
     
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    You can't be sued for stating the truth.
     
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    sad thread begins with racist stereotypes.
     

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