Be Who You Are, Republicans!

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  1. XXJefferson#51

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    …Republicans should recall that we are the party of love, liberty, equality, and servant leadership.

    Republicans were widely portrayed as the opposite this past election – as a danger to democracy, and as extremists embracing authoritarian hierarchies. Sadly, some independent voters (and most Democrats) actually seem to believe this inversion of reality. This description was so foreign to our thinking that we dismissed it as almost laughable; we should instead take note and be who we are.

    Today, we Republicans are the party of Jefferson, Lincoln, and Martin Luther King Jr.

    Put yourself into Jefferson’s place, time, and mind and imagine what he was thinking as he crafted the elegantly terse Declaration of Independence:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed …

    A religious man, Jefferson was most comfortable with Deism – he believed in God and in understanding the divine through reason and logic. A product of the Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, his ideas are the foundational ideals of our nation…

    …Martin Luther King called these ideals a promissory note to which every American is an heir.

    Democrats today scorn equality and call instead for equity. But “equity” is transactional, a demand for recompense justified in anger, whereas Jeffersonian equality is a divine status defined by love.

    The left is animated by this idea: Our nation was imperfect at birth and therefore a lie in concept, and all of our institutions are irreparably polluted by hateful ideas, especially racism. Our founding ideals are disparaged by the Founders’ own sins.

    Many who reject Republicans today assert that the duty of good people is to deconstruct our nation and start with a self-conscious acknowledgment that we are not equal…












    read more: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/28/be_who_you_are_republicans_148525.html










    This author is so right on. Totally nailed it. The definition of what we Republicans are is exactly right. The GOP is the 1776 party and secular progressive urban elites (democrats) are the 1619 CRT party
     
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    The GOP is the party that supports God, Family, country, and parental rights in education. We are the law and order party and the party of economic freedom, religious liberty, and individual rights. The 1776 party
     
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    Democrats have shown us the reprehensible and diabolical evil that they and their ideology are.
     
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    It would be nice, but sometime after the Nixon impeachment, they decided to increasingly trade truth for power.

    Ancient and barely relevant history. Today's republicans absorbed the full social conservative coalition, undermining the original belief in liberty, and undermining the narrative of carrying the mantle of Lincoln and MLK. It works though as a tool to get poor people to vote for rich interests.

    A mixture of odd and brilliant ideas to be sure, and clearly an improvement upon their status quo. But conservatives go further. It's almost like worship of the founders. Logic and god are like oil and water, particularly with modern understandings of science. There's a reason deism isn't a common belief system today.

    No, this is not true. Equity is the realm of socialism. Despite the lies conservative media tells you, democrats are not socialists (though in a 2 party system, socialists would align with democrats over republicans). The goal of a regular democrat is equality of opportunity.

    It's not a major theme to most democrats. Sure, slavery was in the original constitution and they didn't get everything right at the start. Not the same as saying it's broken beyond repair for that reason. If it's broken beyond repair, it's because of what Republicans have become.

    This sounds like a myth of conservative hackery.
     
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    You can tell by the fact that they opposed civil rights, gay marriage and had the SC hand over control of women's body's to the states..
     
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    Oh no totally, there's absolutely nothing authoritarian going on within the current Republican party.......

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5039...motes-quick-trials-death-penalty-drug-dealers
     
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    So what are Republicans these days, Federalists or anti-Federalists?
     
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    I felt that same way all those years I was registered and voted Democrat! Then it became very lonely at that table and I discovered I aligned more with Republicans.. But things inevitable change within the Democratic party and they slipped in to the party "Me-me" :(
     
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    It would be nice to see the GOP abandon Trumpism and embrace this approach. Not sure if it will happen.
     
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    Good and generous people, now if you're asking about politicians, well, they're pretty much all the same.. Thing to remember is, people make up the party, not the politicians..
     
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    Doesn't your above quote contradict the opening sentence of your first post, "Republicans should recall that we are the party of love, liberty, equality, and servant leadership." I see no love equality or leadership in this post.

    How is the Republican Party the party of 1776 if they didn't exist until 1854?
     
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    Don't forget, we are also the party that ended slavery in America. But don't forget, one day, like MAGIC, they somehow became the "racists".
    I should find that annoying but I find it awesome, because MAGIC must exist! who doesn't love magic?
     
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    I was a registered Democrat in the 1970s. I voted and worked for George McGovern and Jimmy Carter in 1976.

    1980 was my watershed year. I decided to vote for Ronald Reagan on Election Night on the way home from work. The Democrats at left me by then with their quotas based upon race and gender. I should seen the light when McGovern instituted quotas at the 1972 Democrat Convention.
     
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    The only time I've ever debated with anyone who tried to justify the Confederacy, slavery, etc, it has come from conservatives. Without fail. It's happened here on the forums.
     
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    Historically I can explain why that happened. In 1964, Barry Goldwater made a big deal out of voting against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Many Republicans voted for it, along with Democrats who were not from the South. The southern Democrats held firm with their Jim Crow policies.

    The Civil Rights bill had its complexities. Practices like denying people of color to rent rooms at hotels or eat at Whites only restaurants were dead wrong. Applying quotas to hiring and promotions were questionable when they were applied and became onerous when they continued for decades.

    Still voting against that bill was not Goldwater’s finest hour, and it solidified the trend started by John Kennedy in the early 1960s. Before then, Republicans received a large portion of the African-American vote. Although Kennedy was unable to get his civil rights program passed (And some would argue didn’t spend the political capital to do it.), African-Americans perceived that the Democrats were their friends.
     
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    People are always telling you who they are, and if we are to avoid being victims of deception, we need to pay attention. It's not the words they say- it's the things they do and the fashion they do it in that tells on them. The lack of just cause only restrains honorable men, other turn to character assassination and attacks on values in an effort to prevail.
    In many of today's events, we should be placing a heavier judgment on the immorality of process than the issue being contested; that is the greater evil.
     
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    Except for Cheney and that other guy. There will always be posers!
     
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    Ive been on CW forums as it been my interest for years. It is a very small minority that take such stances. I just get sick of the many Democrats that justify large centralized government and Socialism.
     
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    I've yet to hear a single modern Dem justify the Confederacy. I hear it constantly from the right wing. I've heard it here on these forums. I grew up in a place where it was kind of the near-majority opinion. You can still find the flags flying all over there. It's hardly a "small minority" there.
     
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    I think people should be judged on what they say or do. Not what was done 150 years ago. Yes Lincoln did free the slaves, but we live in todays society not that of the 19th century and things should be judged accordingly.
    I have noticed on this site that most of the accusations of unfair treatment do not come from liberals. They come from people who want to put down others. You and I should be concerned if someone calls us a racist, but we should not use the term solely to put down others.
     
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    You do realize that Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.
     
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    Wrong, but the political complexities of the situation in 1860 might be tough for you to comprehend.

    Lincoln said that, “If anything is wrong, slavery is wrong,” before he ran for President. The trouble was he had to #1 get elected, and once elected try to hold the Union together and then restore it.

    If Lincoln had run as an abolitionist in 1860, he would not have been elected. The country was not ready for that and would not have voted for it. If you want more details, I’ll provide them.

    Once elected, Lincoln had to do what he could to keep the border states in the Union. If Maryland had succeeded, Washington, DC would have been indefensible. If Missouri had succeeded, it might have the last straw so far as winning the Civil War. If the victories in Atlanta and Mobile, Alabama had not come when they did, Lincoln might not have been re-elected. If the Union had let the Confederacy stand, it’s hard to say how much longer slavery would have survived.

    So Lincoln ran on the platform of “no new slave territory” in 1860. That was his only option if he was to win.
     
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    In discussions of Civil War, both North AND sOUTH, IT IS A SMALL MINORITY. I'll grant you, that small minority is on the right, but those promoting Socialism and eventual unification with China are all on the left and vote Democrat! Not a small minority either!!
     
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    He only said "Union" was the immediate priority. His actions at every turn though was "abolition." Even as a young man on his flatboat trip to New Orleans where he saw slavery auctions, his letters indicated he thought it inhumane.
     
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