Ben Carson Says 'God is Still in Charge'

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not surprised you responded with a youtube video.

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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove it
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    And allegedly your god created it ALL....all the disease, all the evil, all the natural disasters….he really is doing a lousy job of something you claim he's in charge of....


    NONE of the suffering was necessary unless one revels in cruelty...
     
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    How can you be sure your "god" and "Satan" aren't one and the same ???

    They sound so similar..
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    There were all sorts of idols that had god names in the Old Testament. Dagon, Baal, and many others. All were Satan inspired counterfeits men used in rebellion against God.
     
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    Never fails. The very best medical care available and he credits god. Is that what they call confirmation bias in action?
     
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    God is love. Every lost soul will have rejected multiple opportunities to be saved. Peoples probation has run out and been exhausted historically and everyone alive at that point will have made an affirmative decision for or against him and those engaged in the active persecution and hunting of His believers at the point of the 2nd coming will bear the brunt of what’s described.
     
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    NO, your god isn't "love" unless "love" consists of abject cruelty......and that isn't what real love is about....
     
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    It seems that just like the other place I’ve participated in like this that the mere positive mention of and affirmation of God has drawn out all the sites resident atheists and deniers.
     
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    like a jealous boyfriend that beats his girlfriend because he gave her many opportunities to love him?

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:14&version=KJV

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    Exodus 34:14 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
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    you can positively affirm, but the moment you use your belief to assign your gods retribution on non believers, you isolate yourself in your own self righteousness. Holier than thou is not a good look for any follower of ANY religion.
     
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    Yes, brain surgeons are known for low intelligence.....
     
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    there is no cruelty involved in the dealing with the wicked then. They will all pass almost instantly as His coming is part of the final plague that only falls upon the lost. Sinful beings can not survive in the presence of God.
     
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    The Genocidal god.. There isnt a single human on this earth that hasn't sinned in mind and or action.
     
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    True. That’s why Jesus came here to live a perfect life as a person to prove that God was not unfair in His law and to die in our place for all of our sins. Those who believe and accept this sacrifice/ gift to us will not die the 2nd death. Those who follow after the evil one and or simply refuse the gift will simply be left to die for their own sin along with Satan and his angels.
     
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    UH, he doesn't just bring disease, evil, disaster to the wicked!!!!!!

    Have you SEEN the world ??? He dumps it on everyone.
    He brings it to ALL....that is CRUELTY
    Innocent children are wicked???Some children, suffer horribly.....why? Because he is "love" ?








    QUIT with the excuses and sidestepping....
     
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    I already answered that earlier in the thread on page 2. The effects of sin fall upon the just and the unjust sinners all. Being forgiven of sin doesn’t exempt us from living here with its effects, The final plague will fall upon and kill only the wicked as the righteous are ascending to meet Him in the clouds to go to Heaven then.
     
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    never quite could get that whole died for my sins dogma. God didnt' sacrifice anything and neither did Jesus. Jesus is an aspect of the God who resides in your heaven Cant say God in his Jesus manifestation actually sacrificed anything of spiritual or material substance, God being God and all.
     
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    Well, that's pretty nasty and cruel...

    AGAIN, having someone as evil as that in charge is a disaster…..

    He dumps it on everyone.
    He brings it to ALL....that is CRUELTY

    Innocent children are wicked???Some children, suffer horribly.....why? Because he is "love" ?

    NO answers there !!!!!!!!
     
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    Current suffering is because of sin. Sin is the result of Satan’s rebellion against God. Blaming God for the natural consequences of sin or for the unnatural evil acts of people toward other people that cause death and destruction on God is just wrong.
     
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    That is a round about way of saying you cannot.

    You are entitled to your own make believe, you are not free to assert it as fact however
     
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    Just like the mugger who killed your daughter should be set free. It was your daughter's responsibility not to get shot after all
     
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    good cops save, bad cops kill innocent people, just like any other criminal

    good cops need to treat bad cops like the criminals they are.... protect us from them
     
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    If "others do protect themselves, but still get it and die", does that mean that Trump is not responsible for what's happened?(Hint: duh). And does that equally mean our new stooge won't be any 'better'(or worse)? Yes, it means that too.

    Critical thinking is something we lost for the last four years, the best benefit to a Biden Presidency would be getting that back.
     
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    No. I have choices. My daughter, if I had one, had no choice.
     

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