I do not think England's exit from the War would mean victory against Russia. Invasion of England would take time, and many resources to hold it. Meaning it would have given the Russians at least another year to get ready, and the Russian army would have been in far better position to repel any German assault if not invade Germany herself.
Holding France didn't take much resources. I imagine it would be just as easy to hold the UK, once defeated. If Germany was free to focus everything on Russia, they wouldn't stand a chance. The only reason russia survived was because germany had other fronts, russia got help from allies, and because of hitler's stupidity. Change those three factors and russia loses. Hell, even with those disadvantages Germany almost won.
I think holding an Island is much tougher, especially against a much more resilient enemy like the British compared to the Vichy French cowards. The only reason Germany had such success against the Russians is because they launched when Russia was off balance and not in a proper defensive posture, plus still in the middle of retrofitting and upgrading its army. With one more year the Russians would have large number of T34 superior to anything the Germans would have in 1942, they would be in far better defensive posture, and they would have been fully reorganized. I think Germany would have been lucky not to have gotten invaded itself by the Russians. There was no way Germany could win a drawn out war against the Russians, only chance they had was a pre-emtive strike when Russia was off balance, as they did in Barbarossa.
Russia was defeated in 1941 because: 1 ... on the German side were resources of the entire Western Evropy. 2 ... + troops Romania, Hungary, Finland, Slovakia and Croatia. 3..Rossiya kept a large army and resources in the Far East against Japan. P.S. . and of course .... and German soldiers, especially officers - this is a super level ...it is impossible to argue.
This sorta reminds me of Hitler saying in Mein Kampf that the superior Aryan had one disadvantage in that he was always going out and getting himself killed, being so brave and all. If all your SS units were so good why were most of them dead right off, as you point out? "The duty of a good soldier is not to die for his country, it's to make the other poor bastard die for HIS country" I don't see how you say that, just about everyone in WWII on any side fought a lot longer and harder than we expect people to nowadays . And the fire bombing of Coventry, the bombing of Tokyo, Man is a wolf to man The Nazis are a good comparison with the Spartans and they died for the same reason. You cannot expect people to be completely devoid of those qualities that make us human when dealing with other humans, not for long anyway. It may make you successful at first but eventually you will recognize that your enemies are human too, then either you stop not seeing your enemy as inhuman or, far more commonly, your brothers become your enemies
That is a scurrilous slander. The French fought as well as they could but simply did not have the manpower. WWI, for various reasons, bled France white while the German population actually increased. Had the Vichy forces fought longer the Gemans would have simply destroyed a far larger amount of Euopes's legacy than they managed even in their own Germany The Americans had more than a little of the blame for Germany's revival. Were they cowards too?
Yes you can provide all the excuses in the world, the point is that the French did not fight for their country. They not only surrendered after a few setbacks but they actually collaborated with the Nazis. The French were cowards in WW2, they had no stomach for war after WW1 as you said. America had no dog in the fight, and when we did we crushed our opposition.
Well, here is the thing, Mother Russia wasn't preparing for war. Mother Russia (i.e. Soviet Union) had allied itself with Nazi Germany. So in Stalin's mind, there was no need to prepare for war and he didn't. He was completely surprised when Nazi Germany invaded. In fact, Stalin refused to believe Nazi Germany had betrayed him.
False, they had a none aggression pact, the reason Stalin was surprised was that he believed Germany would not risk a two front war. He had bet that he had at least another year, that would explain the forward attack oriented positioning of Soviet Troops.
no, they had a friendship deal. they coordinated the invasions of Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania. the USSR supplied the Nazis with arms, intelligence, and supplies. this was not simply an agreement to not attack one another
Friendship deal? What rubbish, they had common interest initially but come to 1941 and it was obvious there would be war. Why else would Germany have so many divisions on the Soviet Border?
if it was purely a non-aggression pact, there wouldn't have been soo much coordination in the invasions of Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania. and the USSR wouldn't have supplied the Nazis with arms, intelligence, and materials.
Coordination? The Germans supported the Finns... get your facts straight... What intelligence did the USSR provide the Nazis? Any and all Arms and Materials were sold not supplied.
the Soviets also ended all anti-Nazi/anti-Fascist propaganda, and turned over info on anti-Fascists inside Germany
Finland - - - Updated - - - wow, really bursts your bubble to hear that Kommrad Stalin would help the Nazis, huh?
Since when is Finland, German territory? No I have no bubble just want you to back up your statements with facts.
its all here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molot...erman_relations_during_the_Pact.27s_operation - - - Updated - - - and yet the Nazis let the Soviets invade Finland
Well, no, it is true. Mother Russia (i.e. Soviet Union) and Nazi Germany formed an alliance. It's commonly referred to as the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact (i.e. the nonaggression pact). Both countries agreed to invade and carve up Poland and within days of the signing both countries did just that. They invaded and carved up Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact History shows Stalin didn't anticipate Nazi Germany would invade. Stalin had absolute trust in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. He never thought Nazi German would invade Mother Russia. He was told Germany was preparing to invade Mother Russia, he was even told the date of the invasion. He was told by both Soviet and British agents. But he refused to believe them. He believed Nazi's wouldn't invade. Far from building up his military, Stalin was systematically destroying his military. That's one reason why Hitler thought this would be a cakewalk. Stalin had purged tens of thousands of senior military leaders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa#Soviet_preparations
What an absurd observation, by 1941 the Russian military was coming close to total reconstruction following the purges and reorganization with new high tech weapons coming in more and more. Stalin did not for a second believe the pact would hold for more then another year, that is what he thought he needed to get his Army ready to invade Germany.
