Biden administration to allow immigration officers, not just judges, to decide asylum cases

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  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    I hope lawsuits are being filed. A judge needs to put an injunction on this right ****ing now! It will eventually be destroyed in court but Brandon's pro-invader progs can let in millions of invaders in the span of months it would take the courts to come to that decision so an injunction now to stop this while its argued is 100% necessary.

    And if not then turn about is fair play. When a Republican President is back in office that President can pull the same **** and decree that administration officials, not judges, can get to decide deportation cases. We can boot them as fast as the printers can churn out the paperwork. Glorious.

     
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    You worried border patrol is too pro immigrant? Lol


    USCIS officials say the initial process for how Customs and Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement decide who is placed into expedited removal proceedings will remain the same. Those whose are determined by USCIS not to have a credible fear of persecution or torture will then be able to have that decision reviewed by an immigration judge.

    seems reasonable
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Yea I am worried because bureaucrats can be ordered around, bureaucrats can be intimidated, bureaucrats can be replaced - not so easy when it comes to judges. What keeps Brandon's administration, which is openly pro-invader, from dropping their people into the CBP and ICE positions that would be making these decisions? What says they haven't already? Judges make these decisions for a reason.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Then they won’t be removed as fast and still have to go before a judge. Big whoop. Judges still decide.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think I have a problem with that as long as they have a good outline as to what cases are real, they wait at the border until a decision is reached. If denied they are deported, never to return again. We do have laws that make all this unnecessary though. Just enforce them.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what your saying is that border offices can accept an asylum seeker, decide that they actually are seeking asylum from imminent threat, and then provide them a spot in a US immigration detention center so they aren’t killed or tortured, and you think thats a bad thing ?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.

    The right in this country has no empathy or sympathy, or humanity.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Rejecting that premise. Every one of these invaders claims asylum. Pro-invasion activist groups used to invest heavily in coaching invaders how to abuse our process. But these days its become such common knowledge that every 6 year old in Mexico knows how to get into the US freely.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahhhh, the righty “I’m an expert on immigration cause I read something on a Fox News website…..”

    Now their all “invaders” ?

    Have a nice day
     
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    I have a problem with it because it runs contrary to the law. Border patrol agents can't act as judges and Biden can't give them that authority.
     
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    There are certain criteria I would believe such as, what country are you from? Is there a direct threat on your life for remaining there? Did you pass through closer countries that could have offered you safety? Then the big one....Are you just here because of our entitlements? The last one would require a little more discernment. If they did not pass the test they should be rejected. They always have the option of petitioning the U.S. embassy the old fashioned way.

    Too may lawyers are involved. Judges are usually lawyers with a robe. Understand there are globalist groups like "Nations without Borders" who pay lawyers to guide illegal invaders through the process. Is that what we have become?.....A Nation without a southern border?
     
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    If they don't recognize our actual laws, similar to all nations.....they are illegal invaders.
     
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    I like it but seems too temporary and dependent on the administration in charge.
     
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    Maybe you should have more empathy or sympathy for the American taxpayer and worker......or maybe you, out of your OWN pocket, should pay for the transportation, healthcare, and bilingual education that must be provided to these illegal invaders! Marxists are just generous with other peoples money. I think that is the main point here.
     
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    The Leftist globalists in this country have no empathy, sympathy, or humanity for American Citizens or their families. Why don't YOU take it upon yourself to spend YOUR money to provide transportation, healthcare, food and shelter, plus bi-lingual education for just a few of the 2 million illegal invaders we've seen in the past year alone? How 'bout YOU taking the time to council someone who's experienced a loved one die from fetynol or at the hands of an MS-13 animal? Where's the compassion ? Pony up!
     
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    And this will make it harder for those who don’t qualify. What’s the issue?
     
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    It’s legal to request asylum.
     
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    You assume that's how it will work out, I do not. Like I said before: bureaucrats can be ordered around, bureaucrats can be intimidated, bureaucrats can be replaced. You assume these 'officials' wont be biased, I do not. The prog elites running Brandon's White House are sinister and devious and cancerous but they are not stupid. They would not make this change happen if they didn't have a plan to wield it to their benefit. I think its quite obvious the plan is to rubber stamp as many invaders as possible.
     
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    Got it. So judges are the only ones infallible…aka the same people who will review all of these decisions?
     
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    You do understand that immigration judges are not article III judges, right? They're just as susceptible to being ordered around as any other government employee.
     
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    Presumably you want asylum applications processed quickly?

    Would you support spending tens (maybe hundreds) of millions more in federal taxpayer money to hire enough immigration judges to process these applications? After all - you do want them processed by judges, right?
     
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    They want to turn them lose into the country, where they can then immediately just disappear.

    That seems to be the new strategy. They're also doing this with late-term abortions too. Just change who makes the decision. Make it some lower level person who makes the decision so there's far less accountability to properly uphold the law.
     
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    judges still decide, not sure what your saying
     
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    Did you not read your own SNIP?:

    The Biden administration is issuing a new rule aimed at cutting the time for processing asylum claims from years to months.

    The rule, from the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security, will allow U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officers to evaluate the asylum applications of people who would be eligible for expedited removal from the country, after such individuals pass a required screening for a credible dear of persecution or torture from their country of origin. Currently, only immigration judges can decide these matters, and this has led to a tremendous backlog of cases which end up dragging on for years.

    [End]

    Those decisions, obviously, can go in either direction: tentative approval, or rejection. This will actually speed up the processing of rejections, i.e., deportations.

    Did you notice how all the government employees kept quiet, when Trump was trying to order them around, and intimidate them? Granted, he did have a good degree of success, but word still got out to the press, and some were even willing to testify against him. So, if you are so sure, that this is all part of some demonic Biden plot-- as opposed to just a way to process the huge backlog of cases, more swiftly-- you should see this as a positive, overall, because it would undoubtedly lead to Biden's uncloaking, as Satan's henchman, discredit the whole of the Democratic party, and usher in full Republican, governmental control.

    How would that be "to their benefit?" You realize that non- citizens can't vote, right? And that it takes 5 years of residency, to become a citizen? While I don't know if the shifting of our acceptance of immigrants, from Europe to people from the Americas, was a case of long-term Democratic planning-- equivalent to the Republican focus on controlling our federal court system-- the idea that Biden or his administration has some nefarious ulterior motive here, rather than just wanting to get rid of some of the huge backlog (which they inherited, when Biden walked in the door), is manifestly nothing but delusional paranoia.
     
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  25. MJ Davies

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    We already do.

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    This is an invasion. Why do you get to call people "invaders"? I get that it's easier to hate them when you demonize them but they are human beings too. And, it's hypocritical to call them invaders while being offended when your ancestors are called "invaders" to this country.




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