Biden Administration's Anti-Catholic Hate Thou shalt have no other gods before ... HHS?

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  1. Zorro

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    Thou shalt have no other gods before ... HHS?

    Drag these the crazed hate-filled Biden Administration into the nearest Courthouse.

    'Should a Catholic hospital be forced to snuff out its Eucharistic candle in order to provide care to the elderly, poor, and infirm? That is precisely the position taken by the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), on multiple occasions, with St. Francis Hospital and Health System in Oklahoma. In order to continue to get reimbursements for care provided under CMS programs, the Catholic hospital will have to violate Catholic canons by getting rid of its Eucharistic candle, or removing its tabernacle and stop conducting Mass on site:'

    Double encased in glass, brass topped, anchored to the wall, has been safely burning there without incident for 60 years.

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    The Eucharist Candle That Biden's HHS Demands be removed.

    'every Catholic church and chapel have had the same candle burning 364 days a year, for about two thousand years?'

    These insufferable woke Biden pukes are totalitarian Catholic haters.

    'The candle is a crucial form of worship in the most literal sense, too. It signifies the real presence of Christ in the transubstantiated host in the nearby tabernacle, a firm Catholic belief. It honors and worships the Lord through its continued burning. Only when the tabernacle is empty does the candle go out, and that is only during the Easter Passion prior to the Easter Vigil, when the Eucharist returns to the tabernacle.'

    These aren't my beliefs, but that's not the point. Here in America we support the freedom of others to worship according to their beliefs.

    'The local fire marshal has no issue with this, nor with the same setup in every Catholic church and chapel in his jurisdiction, and for good reason: it doesn’t present a risk.'

    Please discuss how wonderful it will be to watch the Court wipe the floor with these Biden-pukes if they are dumb enough not to quickly drop this. Clowns like this is yet another reason why we don't want rigged elections.
     
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    Any place that accepts public funds should not be allowed to promote religious ideology or discriminate against any tax paying US citizen.

    If they are a private organization then they should be able to do as they please.
     
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    It seems this issue is all about what the candle represents.

    Those with the Communist mentality are always fighting for control over how society thinks.
     
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    I believe they can sue for that. It will be a train wreck if they start to apply the same standard to mosques.
     
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    Biden is Catholic...

    As for Eucharist candles, canon does not require it to be an open flame.

    Are electric sanctuary candles acceptable? | Catholic Answers

    While an electric lamp should be able to be made intrinsically safe to ensure it doesn't provide a source of ignition, though it wouldn't be 100% safe necessarily either as short circuits could happen.
     
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    Yeah, sure he is.

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    'Pope Francis has described it as an "incoherence" that President Joe Biden, a Catholic, is in favor of legal abortion.'
    Fake news.

    'Catholic canon law 'requires the candle in the sanctuary for proper worship of the presence of Christ:'

    Can. 940 'A special lamp which indicates and honors the presence of Christ is to shine continuously before a tabernacle in which the Most Holy Eucharist is reserved.'

    'Moreover, doctrine requires it to be a real candle, as' the General Instruction of the Roman Missal dictates:

    315. 'It is more appropriate as a sign that on an altar on which Mass is celebrated there not be a tabernacle in which the Most Holy Eucharist is reserved'.[127]

    'Consequently, it is preferable that the tabernacle be located, according to the judgment of the Diocesan Bishop:'

    a) 'either in the sanctuary, apart from the altar of celebration, in a appropriate form and place, not excluding its being positioned on an old altar no longer used for celebration' (cf. no. 303);

    b) 'or even in some chapel suitable for the private adoration and prayer of the faithful[128] and organically connected to the church and readily noticeable by the Christian faithful.'

    316. 'In accordance with traditional custom, near the tabernacle a special lamp, fueled by oil or wax, should shine permanently to indicate the presence of Christ and honor it.'[129]'

    'It doesn’t matter that some petty bureaucrat'-puke — 'in this case, Scott J. Cooper of CMS' — objects. 'It doesn’t matter if others think that a battery-operated fake candle is sufficient. What matters is what Catholics believe and what their faith requires for worship and proper expression of their religious beliefs.'

    'To demand that the hospital remove its sanctuary candle is to demand that the hospital either (a) reject the doctrine of Real Presence, or (b) force an end to Catholic worship in a hospital. Either way, it is at the least interfering with freedom of religious expression, and at worst requiring a Catholic hospital to put the government before God in order to serve its community.'

    Haul their totalitarian asses into the nearest Courtroom for a well deserved Judicial blistering. These are the kind of totalitarian idiots we get when they rig elections.
     
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    I heard yesterday from the lawyer taking the case that the feds have already surrendered :) The power of the candle reigned supreme!
     
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    What's the Islamist veiw, Lucifer?
     
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    Did I say it was against TOS?

    Does it strengthen your argument? Hell no! But go ahead, carry on. Though I do wonder why, when you cannot make a convincing argument without relying on twisted sources. It's only natural to question the twisted logic you are trying to spin.
     
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    How would I know? And why would I care?
     
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    Your post is incoherent. I properly conformed with TOS. I marked off my quotes and provided the source, just as I'm asked to.

    If you want different sources, go find them.
     
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    Wait.

    Is accepting Medicare and medicaid payments "government endorsement" of religion.

    Freedom of religion, not freedom from it.
     
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    :roflol:
    Now you want me to find proof of your delusions? LOL
     
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    republicans always say doctors don't want Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP as they lose money... looks like that has been a lie
     
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    Wait

    Is Planned Parenthood accepting Medicare and medicaid payments "government endorsement" of Abortion.

    I do not think it is... do you?
     
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    Fake News. I couldn't give less of a damn what you do or don't. Stick to the topic and quit making me the topic.
     
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    Well it sounded to me like you demand an unbiased review of Roman Catholic dogma. Why don't you ask an Islamist?
     
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    Probably some silly fire regulation that they will waive when it gets high enough up the chain of command.

    Ridiculous that you think Joe Biden is involved with minutia like this.
     
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    Gibberish does not a good retort make.
     
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    Does that apply to bakers in Colorado who refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay couple?
     
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    Nope, it includes freedom FROM
     
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