Biden Aide Signals Push For Greater Censorship On The Internet

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Sure. You seem to be arguing something else than I am. I did say that I don't care if they ban all conservatives from Twitter. You seem to be ignoring my argument. Maybe it's because you are making assumptions about my position based on my political affiliation instead of actually reading what I write.

 

I am not. For I care if they ban all conservatives. Especially if they haven't broken the rules they agreed to.
That's not what their business is about. And why they haven't and won't ban all conservatives.
I bet they banned as many left as they have right.

My only argument is, they ban posts and/or posters simply on the rules everyone agreed to before anyone ever made a single post.
LW or RW, it doesn't matter.
It's their business and their rules. Plain and simple.

If I am reading your point incorrectly, where am I wrong? Are you saying they should never ban any posts or posters for any reason?

 

We don't disagree at all except maybe I would take it further. I am saying, as a private company they should be able to ban whomever they want. Rules are irrelevant.
However, if they want to call themselves a platform and not an editor they need to be careful in being fair and consistent.

Ambiguous rules can be an illusion to be able to ban specific people or talk you don't like and reduce blowback. Its actually a clever tactic that many speech platforms use.
In some cases it might be an unintentional consequence of hiring specific groups of people whose interpretations and views might sway ambiguous ruling in favor of one side. I think since the big tech companies reside in a very liberal SJW type of cultural society, they have a liberal bias in their rulings.

My main contention is that I would like to go to another platform that shares my value of prioritizing free speech but the tech monopolies squelch competition. That's where I have real issues with these companies. I almost wish they would just ban all conservatives so that they would just hop onto a different platform. Twitter wouldn't be able too control the narrative any longer.

 

I have no doubt if they delete or ban posts or posters who have power connected to powerful gov't people, those people will be pissed and try to stop them from being the company they are.

Social media is brand spanking new, in terms of it being a new platform for every tom, dick, and harry to post their opinions.
And it gets seen worldwide.

Not the same as one stating an opinion on a pubic street corner where only those in ear shot can hear them.

Human systems are designed and run by humans. They are always flawed and there are always others who will work to exploit anything by any means they can.

Social media is the new radio and television. But even more open as for a time, any one could post anything, almost.
Where radio and tv always had a built in filter that was not well known. For anyone could say anything in an interview, but there was no guarantee that interview would air. And it certainly was always edited. Which, IMO is the same as what those big social media platforms are being forced to do now as people post outrages and inciteful things.

Will there be changes forthcoming, absolutely.
But it's not been biased, IMO, against LW or RW. Just 1 side yelling louder.

Big business has always squelched competition. It's why there are monopoly laws.

How has Parlar been squelched from starting their social media platform? QAnon?
Control of IP providers would have to occur for that to happen, yes?

 

Millions disagree with what you wrote ... and like you they are disgusted with him

 

Im not real sure who your crowd is... what I do now is the folks cheering for censorship of conservatives on facebook and twitter and etc tend to be the same folks that want to end capitalism. Im not saying that makes you one of them. Im saying those two agendas share a lot of the same supporters, and Im hoping that we conservative capitalists and those anticapitalists can manage to unite against the common enemy thats been censoring us conservative capitalists and is now turning to the anticapitalists now that the establishment neoliberal cronycapitalists appear to be taking power again.

 

We disagree on there being no bias but honestly our own biases can get in the way of us ever agreeing.

Gab hosting provider did drop them, then Microsoft stopped providing a database service, and then Google removed and banned there app from the playstore. In part this is a result of progressive SJW culture and their activism and boycotts etc... But Microsoft and Google are powerful enough and it would seem inappropriate for them to deplatform Gab on such a fundamental level, especially Gab being the sole competitor of Twitter. One can only wonder if there was faul play.

 

"millions disagree with what you wrote" isn't exactly a real position. I am assuming you are saying that stocks are not a relevant what to determine the success of an economy. I agree with this. Even now the stocks are artificially being held up by continual stimulus packages even as we shut down and kill our economy. I am concerned there will come a time that the stimulus will no longer work.

The standards I use to measure the success of the economy are, wage increases, unemployment, and GDP. All of which did better. Trump did alright with the economy but not as well as Obama but that is because Obama had the boost of the recovery and actual growth above the standard is slower. The other thing Trump did well with was peace through strength. He did not get us involved in anymore wars, which Obama failed at. Also, Trump helped several peace deals reach fruition.

 

So Biden for sure will be better .. he will have the boost of the recovery after Cuvid 19 period ..

 

The Democrat Party's regulations and interventions have created monopolies where winners and losers are artificially chosen. That's why Republicans are usually calling for deregulation, so that competition can enter markets and survive.

 

Thanks, that was funny.

Also wrong.

You need regulation to prevent monopoly, and that's what TR gave us.

Thanks to mostly Republican efforts, they don't work now.

One of the things Stiglitz goes over in Price of Inequality.

 

Chomsky... Ever the reliable fascist....

 

Lots of us on the right have been warning the left of their own coming fascism. Seems they just couldn't face what they saw in the mirror.. What the group who got Biden elected really want is China. We've already seen the test participants on these boards trying to curry favor for a more authoritative brand of "democracy" complete with social credits, and technology censorship. It seems that China got exactly what they wanted in the uncertified version of the election. With a Biden president, they get the opportunity to crack down on speech they find inconvenient or damaging to the state. The left are bringing this because they believe in their divinity to rule. The poor, the radicals, they were all simply pawns in the elitists design to destroy the last, best place in the world.

 

Laughable. You simply cannot help yourself can you. Lefties cheerleading for censorship.

 

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And who gave us racial conflict? If not Obama, who? When you continue to call out Russia, why aren't you at the same time calling out China? It's not like they took a back seat somehow, did they? And why is it you cannot seem to ever call out China? If, as you suggest, Russia got "right wing fruitcakes" to damage the nation, show us an example.

 

Yes, but we can agree on freedom of speech, especially when we don't like others' opinions, is a virtue which preserves all of our other freedoms.

Apparently the incoming Biden/Harris administration does not agree with that basis tenet. And that is a problem.

 

I suppose that you simply don't pay attention then. Folks, like me for example, have made the same point, forever. And here's an interesting thing. Except for the left, who took a different path. Last we heard, folks from around the planet started using FB et al to express themselves. And suddenly, the left didn't like that. You folks took offense that someone from a foreign nation could use FB et al to speak directly to US citizens, and you called that election fraud. Collusion, etc. You can't run from the history here. And yet, now, suddenly, having been exposed, FB et al are now choosing to take a very specific path. The use of their platforms to remove contentious speech. And of course, you seem oblivious to the law. In doing so, FB et al have violated the agreement and the law that framed their 230 protections. Their decision to violate the law then, also precludes their continued protection of the law.

But because so many leftists believe that they shouldn't ever be subjected to heresy, they find that FB et al censoring along ideological lines affirming and supporting and are just fine having it done on their behalf by FB et al.

I would point out that markets can just as easily shift away from the same financial support. And many many folks have done just that. Similar to the migration away from the MSM who also just couldn't tolerate being challenged in their narrative of censorship and their own willingness to be one sided.

So, let them. The market will correct them. And while they do that, take away their 230 protections, and let them thrive in the non governmentally protected way the rest of media has to play.

 

Democrat leaders are working the United Nations globalist plans, not working for the United States. Anyone who has paid attention to United Nations chairmen and boards can figure out that the coming global government will be a totalitarian fascist one.

If you want to know what Biden will do, study the UN plans and dig deeper down than the rosy-sounding "green planet" and "equity" fluffery. Fascism always starts with a layer of sweet icing and pretty decorations to top. The actual cake underneath is very ugly total control and power by the few over the many.

The right figured that out a long time ago.

 

LOL It's amazing.

 

Communist China's growing economic power, advocated by globalists, is the real threat. Russia was a public distraction.

 

I cannot help but think of the wisdom of Jefferson's observation all those years ago: Honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.

 

This is thoughtful...

 

Defending Putin? The short answer is Republicans, but there is no question Putin helped.

Until recently China's spying was low tech, low budget, and focused on stealing information they could use. An unhappy pony doesn't give you the same level of grief as an unhappy elephant.

Maybe because helping crazy is not my style.

Read the Atlantic article I linked. Breitbart and Russia had a lot of fun. One of them would concoct a lie, the other would pick it up, add to the lie, and then use their resources to spread it. And then the one that started it would add even more to the lie, and spread that.

But let's put your silliness into focus. The Right has devolved into saboteurs.