Biden now wants to RESTART construction on Trump’s border wall to ‘plug gaps’ DHS head Mayorkas says

Can drones put handcuffs on, take fingerprints, drive Illegal Aliens to the nearest bus station? Since when?

 

The waste comes when anybody starts building anything following no technical criteria whatsoever.

 

Because you are starting to build walls all over the place just so Trump could claim that he had built more miles than he actually did.

Any sane person would extend the current walls and build additional secondary walls. It might not stop people from going around (like the poster I was responding to said), but it will make it harder. And, in any case, there are places where it's impossible to build a wall. So there will always be somewhere to go around. What Trump did serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. He could have made it harder, but instead he chose to use it for political gain. And this is the end result.

Trump completed a total of 15 miles of wall.... 15 miles! But it extended over an area of almost 400 miles. Sure enough, he claimed he had built 400 miles of wall

You fell prey to demagoguery, I'm afraid



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46824649
and
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/immigration/border-wall-progress/

 

You presented prototype samples as a the wall with big gaps "Yeah! Nobody is getting around those!" An honest mistake, Im sure.

Now you are posting picks of construction. Bidens decision to complete construction is smart and will save lives.

 

You refuted your own post in advance by misrepresenting prototype samples as the wall.

 

Impossible we are told walls were racist and regressive.

 

No but they can take wonder pictures of people breaking our laws..... i mean i guess that is what matters....

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/05/8992...truction-but-wont-tear-down-trump-s-additions

"There will not be another foot of wall constructed on my administration, No. 1," -Joe Biden

Looks like Biden is breaking campaign promises about the border wall. Isn't that what democrats accused Trump of when they said he didn't make Mexico build it? Once again, all politicians are full of ****. Instead of finding out facts about the problems, they'll just point fingers and scream "racist!"... until it is them in power. Then they are like "oh...we need a wall."

 

Because most of those (if not all) will likely not be continued given that they were not done taking into account expert criteria as to how effective they would be.

But what we need to pay attention to is how absolutely useless they are.

The wall will never be built. We knew that since even before Trump was elected.

 

Much more effective than sitting by watching floods of illegals crossing the border without resistance. We're even putting them up in hotel rooms. Build that damn wall NOW!

 

Biden is going to lose no matter what he does. And if walls don't work, why are the open border people so upset with it?

 

I bet Omar has doors on her house.

 

I'll bet she wants to know who people are before she lets them in her house.

 

You do understand that Biden is not going to build the wall, right? I mean, he might extend current barriers a bit at some point, if technical criteria shows it's worth it. But not anything like what Trump fooled so many people into believing he would build. This is pretty much a "what if" thread. Fun... but no practical value in the real world.

 

It's quite probable that there will be some construction at the US/Mexico border under the Biden administration, considering every single presidency since the early 20th century has conducted new construction of some sort at that border. You are correct that what Trump promised in particular wasn't coast to coast border walling, however what he did promise was over 900 miles of new fencing, which in the end we only saw somewhere around 400 miles of construction that was mostly refurbishing already existing wall. It is highly unlikely that Biden would go forward with the Trump administration's goal of 900 miles of new fencing (or Mexico paying for it), however we probably will see some refurbished fencing just as we have seen with every prior presidency over the past 100+ years

Generally speaking this refurbishing is a slow process of removing fencing and reinstalling it with updated material, hence the description of filling in the gaps. Those gaps in the fencing exist due to ongoing furbishing

 

You may have a point, but then again maybe not. During the same timeframe, there was this thing called the Presidential Election Cycle going on. The media was predicting that Biden would win easily, and Trump would be out. Many started heading to the US believing that Biden would open the borders, and allow them into the US. If you check the numbers, you will see that 2019's numbers were far higher then in 2020's but those caught were not allowed into the US. Instead they were returned to Mexico to await asylum hearings. President Trump's greatest tool in combatting the flow of illegals entering this country was to get rid of Catch and Release and Turn Back South programs utilized by the Obama Administration.

Further, the only articles that talks about illegals being afraid of COVID-19 are talking about how illegals already in the US are not seeking medical care because of their illegal status. They do not credit it for reducing the flow of illegals at our borders. The fact that illegals heading for the US Borders are wearing Biden Campaign T-shirts, tells me all I need to know. Biden ran on a policy of reversing President's border policies, and allowing illegals into the US. Biden has kept that promise (unusual for a Democrat).

But here is the scary part. Illegals are being released into the US without a court date, or any type of medical screening. How many of them have COVID-19? We are trying to eradicate the virus, and Biden is importing more sick people.

I rebut anyone that claims that President Trump wanted to build a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Atlantic Ocean along the US/Mexican Border.

While hiding in his basement, Biden made it clear that he was going to reverse President Trump's policies along the border. Something he did on the first day, and that created the crisis along the border. And Yes, it is a crisis!!! Between Candidate Biden's Statement and President Biden's actions, those heading to the US have been emboldened. They are coming her in record numbers. They are wearing Biden Campaign T-shirts, and freely talking about how Biden is going to let them into the US. Those are the initial efforts that I am posting about. Then there are all the false statements by Biden. Such as, he was keeping President Trumps Covid-19 border restrictions. If that had been true, then the immigration detention centers in the US, that were not overflowing during the Trump Administration, would not be at 900% capacity today.

Biden's Administration is allowing illegals to enter the US without Covid-19 testing. They have returned to the policy of Catch and Release. Some without so much as a court date. Then to makes matters worse, they refuse to admit that President Biden's have created a crisis. President Trump's was not allowing illegals caught at the Border into the US. If these illegals chose to claim asylum, then they were kept in camps in Mexico. They would even have their asylum hearings in Mexico. Biden, on the other hand, has claimed that nothing has changed along the border. During his only press conference, he claimed that the majority of those captured at the border are being sent back. So, if nothing has changed on the border, and the majority are being sent back, then who is all those people crowded into the detention centers?

Face it, Biden's policies are making this country unsafe.

You should also take into consideration, that President Trump talked to those responsible for the Security along out southern border. They are the experts on where the illegals are crossing. Using what they told him, President Trump identified where the border wall was needed. So, while you claim that you do not support what President Trump is doing, you then say that Biden should do things the same way. Unless of course you are going to claim that there are better experts then those that handle the problem on a daily basis. Maybe, you would feel better if AOC was choosing where to build a wall.

Not in the top 20? According to who?

Yes, Illegals coming across the southern border is a small part of the immigration policy. The greatest number, are those that arrive legally in the US, but then stays after their visa's run out. As I have stated many times, the flow of illegals at the southern border, makes it nearly impossible to focus on other areas of illegals in this country. President Trump had a working plan. He managed to get 452 miles of the proposed 700 miles of wall built. If the remaining 248 miles of wall were to be completed, it would be a simple matter of watching out for those attempting to scale the wall.

 

I'll have to stop right there. Looks like your post is going to be based on false talking points. Nobody was predicting crap!

Allow me to skip over the rest of this nonsense that you don't even bother to substantiate.

Obviously it didn't work. In part because it was illegal. But mainly because Obama's approach was working, by reducing the number of unaccompanied minors from Central America.

Covid 19 impacted immigration several ways. Fear was one factor. But it also included Mexico imposing more restrictions. The financial crisis, which meant that there were no jobs anyway. And the emergency declaration giving Trump more power to justify steps that would be illegal without the pandemic.

None! They are tested before they're released.

You're repeating Trump wingnut talking points, but not bothering to check them.

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It would be from the Gulf of Mexico to the Atlantic Ocean. 1000 miles of wall and the rest, according to Trump, natural barriers. That is never going to be built. Certainly not by Biden.

Yes. But it's a human crisis. Not an immigration crisis.

"Emboldened" ?

See? This is the issue: Republicans don't understand nor have they ever understood the root of the problem. These immigrants don't come here for "fun". The majority come because they have no choice. In their countries, they would be killed or their children could be kidnapped and used as mules, or child trafficking, .... This will NOT be fixed unless the root problem is fixed. And we wasted four years in the process of.... at least making it manageacle.

Not "record numbers". They are less than during the Trump administration. Another right-wing talking point you didn't bother to check.

Oh, dear God... what nonsense!

1000% false! You keep believing Tucker Carlson despite the fact that he has been proven a liar so many times. Even he himself has said that he shouldn't be taken as a reliable source. But the victims of the wingnut echo-chamber still believe them. Why?

"Returned"? You actually believe that catch and release was ever suspended?

I'm afraid you are just repeating talking points you hear on the radio. You need to understand that just about everything you hear on shows like Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Alex Jones,,... it's made up propaganda.

If you don't at least do a simple google search before posting, this whole debate will go nowhere.

According to whom? To me, obviously. I don't think immigration is a bigger problem than Covid, the financial crisis due to Covid (and to Trump's lousy policies), the gun epidemic, opioid epidemic (and other drugs), domestic terrorism, a 20 year-old war that we can't seem to get out of, North Korea, Russia (and others) attacking our democracy, cyberterrorism, AGW, healthcare costs, voter suppression, institutional racism, ... I could go on and on... I can list at least 20 issues... maybe even 30 or more... that are immensely more relevant than immigration. The right is fixated on something that is way down on the list.

A while ago I posted a thread about how other countries have dealt with illegal immigration. And even underdeveloped nations that receive way more refugees than us (proportional to the population) manage just fine. I say again: illegal immigration at the border is a problem. But nowhere near one of our most urgent problems. Not by a mile.

 

Please reread my past posts, a rapid response team.

 

I questioned your "rapid response team" and of course you never answered. Responding how? Transporting them to the taxpayer paid hotels?

 

Really ???!!!!

FYI, drones have cameras and sensors !!!!!

 

Nope. The surge started a year ago.
Chart on page 4

 

What's an effective wall?
All walls can be gone over, under, around, and smuggle thru

 

So in the same article they show you where Joe actually froze funding for the wall, and then make an unfounded claim that he is going to refund it ?

Just wow.

another, “make **** up and try to make democrats support a position they never took” thread ?

 

Biden should admit he and kamala got elected by fraud, that Pres Trump won by a landslide; and resign.. after reinstating Pres Trump.

 

which is all useless if we don't do anything about it. Being able to see them cross does what? Give us a good head count is it.