Big Coal Predicted Climate Change...In 1966

Totalitarian leaders create crises to accumulate power declaring that they must assume control to protect the people from “existential threats” to the human race. You can see this every in the Progressive Democrats.

 

Yeh, I understand your example was reversing desertification. That’s why I found it humorous/ironic since goats typically have a negative connotation.

Care to educate me on the Washington/Oregon thing? I’m not familiar with that controversy.

 

This may help.

1. Controversial Federal Grazing Fees Not A Great Deal For ...
   https://www.opb.org/.../federal-grazing-fees
   This chart shows why ranchers argue for low grazing fees on public lands, even when those fees are a fraction of the rate they pay to lease private rangeland. Researchers at the University of Idaho found the operating costs associated with ranching on public land are often higher than for private land.
   
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2. Bundy, Ranchers, What is the real deal GD? - AR15.COM
   https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2019992_Bundy...
   Aug 05, 2017 · Millionaire rancher didn't pay his grazing fees for grazing on federal land. Painted it as some sort of bullshit David and Goliath standoff. Three percenters got to get their Condor and NCstar carriers with no plates dusty as they stood around in the desert mean mugging feds.
   
   
3. The Irony of Cliven Bundy's Unconstitutional Stand
   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/the-irony-of-cliven-bundys...
   Apr 14, 2014 · The Irony of Cliven Bundy's Unconstitutional Stand. Twenty-one years ago, rancher Cliven Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees. Bundy does not recognize federal authority over land where his ancestors first settled in the 1880s, which he claims belongs to the state of Nevada. The Bureau of Land Management disagreed and took him to federal court,...
   

 

Climate change transformed the Sahara Savannah into the Sahara Desert 6000 years or so ago. The Hummer wasn't a glimmer in anyone's eyes. Mass migration from Syria was caused by Assad refusing to supply fuel for irrigation --- not the climate hoax.

 

The story of Cliven Bundy had nothing to do with development of the Los Angeles River in the 1920's, 1930's and under Obama's attack on those who opposed his policies. The Cliven Bundy story and the Biden story have one thing in common: Powerful Democrats using public resources to enrich their families. Bundy had, for years, been using public property for grazing that Reid's son wanted to use with his Chinese partners to build a wind farm. End of story. Harry needs to share a jail cell with Biden.

 

Yep. Time to turn them away.

 

Climate change in the ME 10,000 years ago was caused by the slow retreat of glaciers.

Syria had five years of drought.. Agriculture collapsed since the topsoil blew away and the oil sector collapsed as well..

 

Rainfall was above average.

 

The US Southwest has had centuries long droughts and centuries long periods of ample water but millenia of stupidity that allowed rainwater to flow into the Pacific and mix with the raw sewage from the streets of LA and Mexico.

 

No it wasn't .. Syria was a dustbowl.

 

Opps ,,, that would be a solar farm

 

Rainfall absolutely was above average. The claim that the Syrian civil war was the result of a drought is a myth.

http://theconversation.com/is-syria...-between-drought-migration-and-conflict-80110

 

The New Humanitarian | Drought pushing millions into poverty
www.thenewhumanitarian.org/report/90442/syria-drought-pushing-millions-poverty
Sep 09, 2010 · A top UN official warns that Syria's drought is affecting food security and has pushed 2-3 million people into “extreme poverty”.

During a mission to Syria which ended on 7 September, Olivier de Schutter, UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said 1.3 million people had been affected by the four-year drought, 800,000 of whom had had their livelihoods devastated.

 

A reference to the UN is not helpful. The UN is a political organization with a huge investment in the US paying massive sums of money to make development in the undeveloped world carbon neutral. They are tied in with Soros in their attack on the US, tied in with one of the most corrupt oligarchs to slither around the earth.

 

There was no four year drought. The data shows this.

 

Do you know who Wm Polk is?

Understanding Syria: From Pre-Civil War to Post-Assad
How drought, foreign meddling, and long-festering religious tensions created the tragically splintered Syria we know today.

William R. Polk December 10, 2013

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...yria-from-pre-civil-war-to-post-assad/281989/

excerpt:

Most is desert—some is suitable for grazing but less than 10 percent of the surface is permanent cropland.


Except for a narrow belt along the Mediterranean, the whole country is subject to extreme temperatures that cause frequent dust storms and periodic droughts. Four years of devastating drought from 2006 to 2011 turned Syria into a land like the American “dust bowl” of the 1930s. That drought was said to have been the worst ever recorded, but it was one in a long sequence: Just in the period from 2001 to 2010, Syria had 60 “significant” dust storms. The most important physical aspect of these storms, as was the experience in America in the 1930s, was the removal of the topsoil. Politically, they triggered the civil war.

 

In addition to causing violent dust storms, high temperatures cause a lessening of rainfall. This U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map of the Mediterranean shows the drought conditions of 2010. Except for small areas of Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon, the whole eastern Mediterranean was severely affected (shown in red).

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...yria-from-pre-civil-war-to-post-assad/281989/

 

Grazing fees on public land are pretty subjective. Some are a good deal and some aren’t. Depends on topography and whether or not AUM’s charged for accurately translate to real nutritional value. Overall I think fees are probably pretty fair. I’ve never dealt with the Fed on leases but have leased a lot of pasture and some farmland from my state. State land often leases for above private rates here. I gave up two sections recently because they were obscenely over priced. The tax payer has to remember they are getting more than the fee back from the lessee. They are getting value in land preservation more closely resembling it’s natural state than they would see otherwise. Also fire prevention, erosion control, etc.

Sorry, didn’t see the connection between Bundy et al. and grazing practices that benefit the environment. Different issues.

Politics does play a part in messing up private attempts at pasture and grazing practice improvement though so I guess you have a point there. Don’t get me started on taxpayer money wasted on different facets of such things as the EQUIP program. Good intentions poorly executed at times.

 

Except that rain in Syria was at average levels.

 

Before we go to the propaganda and blaming Soros why don't you take a look at Syria's water sources and how much arable land they have?

 

Nothing has changed due to global warming.

 

So you are going to ignore the 1.5 million Syrian farmers who abandoned their farms or how much arable land Syria has or what her water sources are because of "global warming"?

 

Nope. Rainfall is far higher in the tropics than at the poles. Higher temperatures accelerate evaporation, and once equilibrium humidity is reached, increase precipitation.

 

No, he is paying attention to what actually happened.

 

Global warming had nothing to do with that.