Bill Nye critcizes GOP, parents teaching creationism

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  1. Grizz

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    All of them. Now go read. And learn. Oh, yeah - BTW - all of the dancing and obfuscation you do is just that because of one irrefutable FACT - creationism cannot exist without supernatural intervention which means it isn't science. See ya later, sport.
     
  2. NaturalBorn

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    Not really. The Big Bang Theory was first proposed by a Catholic priest astronomer.
     
  4. NaturalBorn

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    I suppose you didn't read any of them yourself, it just a Google result.

    Thanks from playing.

     
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    Evolution is just as proven as the Germ Theory of Disease.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    God created the light rays leading from the rest of the universe to the earth at the same time He created the universe.
     
  7. Troianii

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    ^_- No, it doesn't.

    Well pretty much every part of evolution (I can't think of any off the top of my head) has been shown to, at the bare minimum, be the most likely, which I find sufficient. But that's beside the point.

    ^_- Really? You imagine that if there was a creator who created the universe he could create the stars, but he couldn't create the light?

    This is a nonstarter. Creationism isn't the best answer, but your criticism of it is incredibly weak. Had a creationist wanted a straw man, they may just as well have pulled up your argument to so easily knock down.
     
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    When did catholic priests become infallible? Shall Christians believe a priest or God's word?

     
  9. Questerr

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    I've got a whole gaggle of links here ready to post but I'm not going to do so until you state clearly that you are denying the existence of closed systems. Will you state as such?
     
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    Lebowitz is a self loathing Jew. Screw him for fraudulent name.

    Nye is a clown in a lab coat. He used to be a poor comedian. Now he is a poor imposter 'scientist'.

    And as for "... lectured at an Ivy League school ....", I could name a couple cop murderers with that credential.
     
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    Wait, are you telling us that science can prove that something can come from nothing?

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    Show your proof of the existence on just one closed system from which your fact derived.

     
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    Silly notion, many people are studying that but, to my previous point, those who think it is silly only look to sources that support that notion.
     
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    BAsed on faulty carbon dating processes :confused:
     
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    Which of Haeckel's charts? He made several. Please show an example of these charts in current textbooks. (current meaning published since 2010)
     
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    See, we agree on this.

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    You could find it if you looked. That was one example of many.

     
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    NOPE! It actually isn't! The part of evolution that indicates that environment caused organisms to adapt is obvious and not at odds with Christianity at all. The portion that claims all life evolved from a single Amoeba remains unproven.
     
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    If there are good sources out there I'd be happy to read them, but I've never seen creationism being brought as a reputable theory in any reputable scientific journal.
     
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    Are you denying that closed systems exist? If the answer to that question is no, why would I bother posting proof of something we both acknowledge exists?
     
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    Nobody says it came from nothing, nobody I know anyway.

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    It would be a waste of my time to look them up and provide links to you. Your mind is clearly made up.
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    It would be a waste of my time to look them up and provide links to you. Your mind is clearly made up.
     
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    I have been asking for you to provide proof of it's existence. You apparently can't.

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    Where do you believe it came from?


     
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    Just saying that God's word can differ depending on interpretation. Only under literalist interpretations does God's word conflict with the observations of the real world. There really is no conflict between creation and evolution, except by people with lack of true faith (both Christians and atheists).
     
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    Ah the classic "I have evidence but I'm not telling you because you may challenge me" line. I didn't expect that you would actually have anything since, as far as I know, there are not creationism articles in reputable scientific journals, well not ones that favor creationism anyway.
     
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    Evolution doesn't say all life came from a single amoeba.

    Why is it that creationists cannot argue against evolution unless they build massive Strawmen?
     
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    So Man's interpretation takes precedent over God's word? What part of "In the beginning God created the heavens and Earth." is up for interpretation? If you believe that, then my question is, did death come before sin, or sin before death as the Bible clearly states?


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    How do you believe life began?

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    Would you accept Intelligent Design information from peer reviewed papers?

     
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    A good point which is often lost in these debates. I don't believe in God myself, but being that God is a magical being science cannot prove or disprove Gods existence. The big bang could have happened, evolution could have happened, physics could have happened, and it could all have been done by God creating the conditions.
     

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