Birther Movement Capitalizes On Loretta Fuddy's Tragic Death

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  1. pocket aces

    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never heard. Did Trump's people make it back from Hawaii yet?
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    LOL....no it has been 'debunked' by Birthers....which pretty much excludes any tech savvy person.

    The State of Hawaii says that Obama was born in Hawaii, and that his birth certificate is authentic.

    Birthers can't accept that.

    Because well, because he is Obama.
     
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    Could also be a faked death. They won't recover the plane, why? Either because there will be no body there or she will be there with cement shoes on. Nobody finds this extremely odd? They won't recover the plane even to try and recover the body? This doesn't happen, they ALWAYS try to recover planes that crashed. No investigation and no body. REAL CONVENIENT!
     
  4. Margot2

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    "Barak" is the name of a Jewish General in the Bible.. at the time of Deborah.

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    Her body has been recovered.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/235590541.html
     
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    Killilea said Fuddy's body was taken to the settlement's care home where he held a prayer service for her. Her body was later taken to Molokai General Hospital.
     
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    THE most hilarious thing in the world of politics?

    Will be Birthers who say Ted Cruz is eligible to be President....but want to claim Barack Obama was born in a foreign country and is NOT eligible.


    As for Birtherism....how nuts is it? Well...



    "I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."----Glenn Beck on Birtherism

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/34625/
     
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    The article doesn't say how they got her body out. If she was dead and had no vest on, how did she get recovered? I don't buy this one bit. Rough seas my ass.
     
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    They all had vests on.. If she was seated at the rear of the aircraft, she might not have been able to get out.
     
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    Which is why we don't believe Trump

    The State of Hawaii told the world that Obama was born in Hawaii and that Obama's birth certificate was on file.

    Trump went on national TV and said that he doubted Obama was born in Hawaii and didn't think there was any birth certificate- knowing that Hawaii had said otherwise.

    So Obama requested a copy of his original BC from the State of Hawaii, Loretta Fuddy provided it and Obama showed his BC to the world.

    Clearly motivation for Trump to put Fuddy on his 'kill list'

    I would say LOL....but of course this woman's death is not a laughing matter.

    But we should always laugh at Birthers and their pathetic lies.
     
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    they recovered the body. Why do people spit up their ignorance all over this board when the answers are right in front of them?
     
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    That is what Birthers have been telling us all since 2008.....'If we could just find the information, everything we made up would turn out to be true!"
     
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    Must have been the finest that Trump could afford.......and either they didn't find anything, or it wasn't anything Trump liked.....

    WASHINGTON -- Real estate tycoon Donald Trump said Thursday he has doubts about whether President Obama was born in the United States and has sent investigators to Hawaii looking for answers.

    The "Celebrity Apprentice" star has shot up in the polls as a potential GOP nominee, in part because of his questions about whether Obama is constitutionally allowed to be president if he doesn't prove he is a natural-born citizen of the United States.

    "I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump told NBC's "Today" show on Thursday.

    Officials in Hawaii have certified Obama's citizenship, but a segment of society -- labeled "birthers" in the vernacular -- have demanded additional proof. Trump said when he started seriously considering a presidential bid a few weeks back, he thought the president was native-born, but now he's not so sure.

    "His grandmother in Kenya said he was born in Kenya, and she was there and witnessed the birth. He doesn't have a birth certificate or he hasn't shown it. He has what's called a certificate of live birth. That is something that's easy to get," Trump said, arguing that Obama has spent $2 million in legal fees "to get away from this issue."


    What a maroon.
     
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    And now, the person who said it for the State of Hawaii and who certified his birth certificate as authentic is no more, dead from unnatural causes... think about it, Jeff.
     
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    Body recovered so "Could also be a faked death."

    In the final moments of her life, Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy clung to the hand of her deputy after a small plane taking them back to Honolulu crashed in the ocean off the island of Molokai.

    Fuddy, who gained notoriety in 2011 for her role in making President Barack Obama's birth certificate public, was one of nine people onboard the flight that went down Wednesday. She was the only one who died.

    In the water, Fuddy held hands with deputy director Keith Yamamoto as he tried to help her relax, said the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the ordeal.

    "He recounted how he said he helped Loretta into her life jacket and he held her hand for some time," the priest said. "They were all floating together and she let go and there was no response from her."

    Coast Guard rescuers who arrived after making the half-hour flight from Oahu to the neighbor island said Thursday that the single-engine turboprop aircraft wasn't visible when they got there, only the nine passengers floating across about a half-mile of water littered with random debris.

    The rescuers in two helicopters and an HC-130 airplane said the people were in clusters and acted calm when help arrived.

    "I'm sure they were exhausted," Aviation Survival Technician P.J. Ornot said. The passengers were wearing inflatable yellow life jackets, floating on their backs in the water, he said.

    Rescue swimmer Mark Peer said when he swam to Fuddy, she was unresponsive and he couldn't find a pulse.

    "It was not a good feeling," he said.

    The crash occurred when the single engine of the 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan failed soon after it took off from Molokai and made its turn toward Honolulu, said Richard Schuman, owner of Makani Kai Air, operator of the plane.

    Schuman said the pilot did his best to get the plane down safely and keep the passengers together in the water. Asked how they survived, he responded: "Will."

    "There's only one engine on that plane, and when it quits on you, you just have to deal with it in that moment," he said.

    Three passengers were pulled from the water by the two Coast Guard helicopters, and Maui fire crews picked up others. One person swam ashore.

    Other details remained sketchy Thursday on how Fuddy, 65, was killed and how the others survived. Molokai General Hospital Vice President Randy Lite said Fuddy's body will remain at the hospital until an autopsy is conducted.

    Schuman said he did not yet know why the engine failed because he has not been able to see the plane. The aircraft had no previous problems, he said.

    Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said investigators planned to speak with the pilot, whose name was not released, and some passengers about the crash as they seek more details.

    However, the location of the wreckage, combined with wind and wave conditions, likely means it won't be recovered, said NTSB spokesman Eric Weiss.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/small-plane-crashes-water-off-molokai-hawaii-21187906

    There will be an investigation- but at this point it seems like the plane will not be recovered.

    If you can show how this is an anomaly to anyone but yourself, feel free to do so.
     
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    Is MSM still in love with Obama? the "change" is in the air, so let's "hope" there are some truly investigative reporters left who still work for some papers who do not mind earning Pulitzer :)
     
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    We birthers should steal the body and thru some mysterious power of electromagnetism should make it speak the truth :)
     
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    Silly rabbit- you know that is not true.

    The first person who said it for the State of Hawaii is both alive and kicking, and is a Republican.

    "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

    And of course the late Ms. Fuddy is not the only official from Hawaii who has recently confirmed again- and again- that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii

    There is also the Registrar of Records, Alvin Onaka


    “Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files.”

    Not that I expect any Birther, ever to believe any official confirmation- not when there are rumors, innuendo and lies to believe.

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    That is what Birthers have been telling us all since 2008.....'If we could just find the information, everything we made up would turn out to be true!"
     
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    I wouldn't put it past Birthers to try to steal the body.....but being Birthers they probably wouldn't even be able to book a flight to Hawaii.
     
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    No, of course not - too expensive. We'll wait until something awful happens to Abercrombie (not that I want anything bad coming to the distinguished Scott) and then will make an attempt.
     
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    Another one Breitbarted. Wow how long before Obama becomes so full of himself that he stops making these look like accidents?
     
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    the tape Briebart was claiming would end Obama's presidency was a wash
     
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    How do you know it was all about a tape? Do you believe everything Obama and CO. tells you? Do you believe, your health insurance premiums are coming down?
     

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