BLM wants to meet with Biden-Harris

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't care about conceding. Don't know about you. What I care about is the transition. Emily Murphy is derelict in her duty.

    And we're discussing Stacey Abrams, not political concessions.
     
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    who said Trump can't get a recount in Georgia - fact is though, even had Trump won Georgia, which he has not, he would still of lost
     
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    I do not think anyone can explain that, makes no sense to me, but to each their own, it's their vote

    maybe Trump cheated and got away with it and that is why he thinks the other side did too, who knows - course if he did, he can't very well admit that now can he?

    you know, let's just say Trump cheated, we don't need facts.... right Trump supporters?
     
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    Maybe prison reform, maybe historical employment numbers (pre covid) maybe his funding of historically black colleges, or opportunnity zones. Or all of them.
     
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    Obama lowered unemployment more points than Trump
     
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  6. Grau

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    I don't believe that BLM was significantly influential in the Biden - Harris victory because I think that a significant number of White and Black people were turned off by BLM sponsored arson, vandalism and racist rhetoric.

    BLM simply gave the Trump team more ammunition to use about the radical, Marxist and Socialist agenda voters could expect if Biden won the election.

    Do you remember the popular political maxim: "Every police car burned is another vote for Trump."?

    At any rate, I don't think that BLM has earned a seat at the table if and when Biden begins to address issues related to law enforcement in the Black community.

    If Biden really wants to unify Americans, he's not going to immediately embrace such a racist, demanding & divisive gang like BLM. They can write their congressmen like everyone else.

    Re:
    Blacks comprise about 14% of America's population and are far from unified as the election results showed that a surprising number of Blacks and Latinos voted for Trump. They didn't want their homes and businesses burned down anymore than anyone else.
     
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    Patrice Cullors is an influential activist whose organization reached out to tens of millions of voters this election season through Black Lives Matter Global Network. Let me know if I'm wrong but as far as I know, she has not committed any crimes or called for violence. Cullors is on a show called "Good Trouble" named after a phrase coined by lionized activist and late Congressman John Lewis. She has studied movements and activism as her main life's work (thus far as a Millennial in her thirties). She is a Co-Founder of BLM AND she is a Fulbright Scholar, who was touted as one of Time Magazine's most influential people in 2020. She received a History Maker award from the NAACP in 2015 and recognition from Fortune Magazine as one of the World's Greatest Leaders in 2016. She has been Glamour Magazine's Woman of the Year, graduated from UCLA and USC and has an honorary doctorate from another college and a deal with Warner Bros. Television. I believe she is the founder that says her brother was abused by the police. Preventing police brutality and reforming the criminal justice system seem to be her main focus. She says that BLM believes in direct but NON-VIOLENT action. Biden/Harris is not going to "defund" the police but perhaps they should meet with her, vet her ideas and determine if any of them should be part of the new administration's criminal justice reform policies.

     
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    My opinion as well. People don't like campaigning by threat and violence. Racism certainly isn't popular in the U.S. either. I image they turned many voters away from Biden.
     
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    I gotta admit, Andy, you do make a good point! What are the legion hordes of these underachieving, welfare-sucking black parasites going to do if they get pissed-off at the Democrat Party?! Ha! They sure as hell aren't going to vote for anybody who is Conservative!

    Sixty years ago, American Negroes really did have a choice -- but by the beginning of the 21st-century they were CEMENTED into the Democrat Party for many, many decades to come....

    And as much as I thoroughly despised him all those years ago, I also must admit that the greatest political genius of the past hundred years (at least) was PRESIDENT LYNDON B. JOHNSON! Surely he was second only to Adolf Hitler in being able to "read" his target-audience!

    [​IMG] . LYNDON B. JOHNSON -- Political MASTERMIND!
     
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    Thank you for your salient and informative background.

    My concerns are threefold:

    1. How much of the recognition, awards etc Cullors has received are simply a result of affirmative action and recently fashionable "feel good" pseudo degrees, studies & awards created and promulgated by a PC MSM?

    2. Once you invite one grass roots organization to meet and vet their ideas, you're obligated to do the same to those with differing agendas.

    3. Cullors' and her organization framed their "request" more as an entitled demand so for Biden to afford her a special meeting goes against Biden's promise to be a president to all Americans in order to heal the country's racial divisions.
     
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    Biden is good at that.
     
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    Lets hope he shows common sense.
     
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    Such tit-for-tat is rather typical for politics, but it's usually kept secret I guess. No surprise for me. Unions, NRA and other special interest groups have always voted for politicians sympathetic to their interests. It's a game and always has been.
     
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    1) Doesn't matter unless you are looking for an excuse to dismiss her and her concerns.

    2) BS. In politics you have to pick your fights, because your time and political capital are always limited quantities..

    3) More BS. Actually, it doesn't even make sense. Have you ever seen a president hire a stadium so he can talk to hundreds of groups at the same time? On top of that, we're talking about people that think we're straight from hell and drink baby blood. The Biden doesn't really mean heal, they want to calm things down. That's as good as it gets when the other side has gone f***ing nuts.
     
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    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    There's your game.
     
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    And since when have the MSM or Democrats based allegations on facts? Still waiting on those pee pee tapes. Waiting on those gang rape tapes from Kavanaugh. Still waiting on Russia getting some huge deals from Trump. Still waiting on Trump taking away women’s right, black rights, gay rights? Starting WW3 yet? He’s got a couple months left to do EVERYTHING he was accused of in 2016. He’s responsible for every Covid death too, even those all over EU!!!! It’s all his fault because he didn’t tell people to wear a mask. That alone would have been good enough to stop the pandemic. /derp

    Dems have lied 24/7 for 4 years.
     
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    LBJ knew pursuing civil rights was going to cost Dems the South.

    That's kinda the opposite of someone like Hitler...

    "black parasites"????

    There's a word for that.
     
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    Hear hear:applause::applause::clapping:
     
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    One thing I can say right off. If your PD has less than 10 cars you don't need a ****** tank. Definitely don't defund the police but stop buying military hardware. Put that money into police salaries and attract a better sort of applicant, one who is as willing to take courses in applied psychology as to practice on the shooting range.
     
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    The thread topic concerns blacks, but, make no mistake -- there are also 'legion hordes' of other kinds of parasites, too -- of ALL COLORS! Parasitism is an 'equal-opportunity' defect! Note: there are more white people on welfare than blacks -- but, there are far more blacks, per capita, on welfare than whites....

    And, actually, you're wrong about LBJ losing anything by sacrificing a few states in the South. In the 1964 election, Lyndon Johnson obliterated his Republican opponent, Barry Goldwater. LBJ received more than 61% of the popular vote, and an astounding 486 Electoral Votes!

    Oh, and yes -- instead of hiding it from anyone, LBJ made a BIG deal during the campaign out of signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Again, he knew exactly how to manipulate the entire political landscape to get what he wanted -- and his prophetic utterance about how "I'll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for 200 years" has been totally accurate during every election since then, with at least another 145 years in the future left for his prediction to remain true....
     
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    1) You are blaming the victim. Which doesn't exactly alter my impression..

    2) Major realignments take years, even decades. However, Republicans won 5 out of the 6 presidential elections after that...

    3) After a group gets fully assimilated, their voting usually reflects that of the larger population they are in. That's because they've become part of that larger population. Blacks will avoid racists as long as they are racist.

    Sheesh.
     
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    Thank you for a civil response even though we have different points of view. I don't see Affirmative Action as something that matters here. She has some influence, irrespective of how she achieved that feat and she's not stupid.

    Affirmative Action doesn't mean that everything gets handed to you and you are an idiot. If that were the case black applicants would rarely get rejected from schools or passed over for jobs and both of these occur regularly. It means that given similar qualifications, choose a woman or member of certain minority groups. They still need to be able to pass the courses or do the job.

    I don't disagree with you about the PC pressure in many industries. BLM has received mainstream treatment by other businesses and much of the media. Even children's stations are airing programming displaying support for BLM.

    I agree with you that Biden should be equitable when dealing with groups and consider the effect on more than one demographic.

     
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    American Negroes/ American Blacks/ African-Americans (did I leave anything out?) make up approximately 14.7% of the population of the U. S. -- we'll have a more accurate statistic after the 2020 census results are released. I wonder if their highly-predictable voting characteristics will change by the year 2060 when their percentage of the U. S. population is speculated to be ~18%...?

    Parenthetically, well over 95% of them voted as a solid racial bloc for Barack Obama in both 2008 and 2012, even though Obama is a textbook "mulatto" (half-white, half-black). That, as much an anything else, is a clear indicator that blacks can -- and DO -- practice 'group-think-racism' as much, if not more than other racial subdivisions in the population... but blacks aren't "racists"... right?

    Groups like BLM, ANTIFA, NFAC make no pretense about being very 'in-your-face' racist -- so, if as you say, blacks "avoid racists as long as they are racist", there must be a lot of self-loathing and self-hatred going on beneath that black skin they claim to be so 'aggrieved' within.... :lol:

    [​IMG]. One wonders if they'll be less 'butt-hurt' in 2060. :roll:
     
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    Again, Biden won nothing, Trump will have a second turn so Black lives can meet biden till they are blue in the face
     
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    Like I said, there are plenty of things Biden & Harris can do that will speak to the legitimate concerns that drove BLM & that have support in the wider community without alienating a significant number of people. Only the most brainwashed partisan would claim that America's police departments can't benefit from better training, access to certain resources etc. As you say, transferring military equipment to police departments may not be the best use of resources.

    There are options here. No matter which one is taken the Trumpers here will scream about it. We all know it.
     
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