Boy Scouts of America may file for bankruptcy

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  1. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well it's a good thing every argument you make seems to be wrong then.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm saying it's irrelevant. You've not even tried to make any kind of link between the abuse scandal and the change of policy because you can't. They're two separate issues.

    Most homosexuals pose zero threat to children but of the minority who do, the still closeted ones will be more likely to do so, in part because of the unresolved personal issues that can cause them to remain closeted and in part as a consequence of it.

    There will be plenty of good potential leaders previously ignored because of their sexuality (or maybe just wrongly-presumed sexuality) and one part of being a good leader is safeguarding.

    The wider policy refusing to address homosexuality in any way would have made it harder for any homosexual scouts (or indeed young leaders) to address their own sexuality and come to terms with it, potentially putting them at greater risk of being taken advantage of and less willing or able to raise it if they were.

    The wider policy was a major factor in the criminal dismissal, denials and cover-ups of abuse because of the (flawed) association with homosexuality and the unwillingness to even acknowledge it's existence within the organisation.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    The difference is I support my arguments with actual evidence not rudimentary theories with no factual backing. I can see how you got them confused.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    Do we really need once again to break out the evidence that per capita homosexuals are more likely to abuse children espeically boys? Really? We have to once again pull out all the data and watch the liberals deny reality?

    Are we going to just have another repeat of the reality that homosexuality is a psychological disorder, I cite the countless studies and watch the liberals here name call and can't argue the evidence?
     
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  5. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Are you claiming that these allegations pertain to incidents which occurred AFTER the ban was lifted?

    Your link says these allegations go back decades.
     
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  6. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    The allegations go back DECADES, so they were pretty sad BEFOREHAND.

    It looks like Satan had his claws dug in well before there was a merit badge for Fabulous.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    ^ Thread win.
     
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  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They go back to the homosexuals.
     
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  9. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good. It serves them right. It's a damn shame that the leftists couldn't make their own club. Always gotta butt their noses into things that have been going good for decades. All because they don't like it.
     
  10. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
     
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  11. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm glad you're proud of the garbage the boy scouts have been reduced to. Most Americans feel differently. I don't want my boys getting slighted. There's a girl scout club for a reason and there could have been a gay scout club. Keep destroying everything, see how far your "progression" progresses.
     
  12. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Stop sidestepping your own ridiculous argument.
     
  13. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup. So let's increase that risk. How smart.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    And that's a thread win.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Do you really need to be educated that homosexual males molest boys per capita at a far higher rate? Really dude you need to be educated on something that basic?
     
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    There were already gay scouts, they just weren't allowed to be open (in direct contradiction to the core principles of the BSA). And my sister probably had more scouting knowledge than 90% of the boys in my troop. She was always borrowing my merit badge books.

    I don't follow the philosophy that petty insecurities are something for people to hang their hat on -- they don't make for a good identity. That's why I'm not intimidated by gays or girls engaging in scouting. If people want to start a he-man-woman-haters club, they can start one. There is no shortage of "men" who mistake such weakness for strength.

    The only north star the complainers seem to be able to offer is the-sky-is-falling paranoia. I'm sure victim mentality is popular, but I'm glad to see the BSA isn't caving to it. The irrational despair just makes me donate more.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Cite the principle listed in the BSA that states homosexuals must be admitted. Go ahead, we both know you made it up.
     
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  19. Antiduopolist

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    Pedophiles.
     
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    I'll help you out with reading skills. "in direct contradiction to the core principles of the BSA" was what is known as a "parenthetical thought." I would have thought the literally parenthesis would have indicated that, but I guess it required more explanation. Anyway, basic grammar: that parenthetical modified "There were already gay scouts, they just weren't allowed to be open." That concept of included-but-not-allowed-to-be-open was what I said was in direct contradiction to the core principles of the BSA. Follow now? Once that computes, see item 1 of the Scout Law.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For Cub scouts, certainly. But boy scouts are too old.
     
  22. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    ^ Makes the whole sad premise for the thread worth it thread win.

    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Hebumpophiles or whatever.

    Semantics aside, your point is false.

    And sad.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    There is no such thing as an asexual pedophile. Try again.
     
  25. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    So what a shocker you can't quote the actual passage that proves your claim. This is my shocked face. No surprise of course. And nothing in item 1 of Scout Law says anything about accepting homosexuality or sexual preference of any kind.

    Thanks for proving you didn't have the guts to actually quote Item 1 because you knew it wouldn't hold up to your backward and uneducated claim.

    I know its hard for you to understand or remember but gay scouts for a very long time were also excluded for the very reason the boy scouts existed. It was a place for a boy to be a boy without the opposite sex. Homosexuals if you haven't figured out already are attracted to the same sex upending the very principle of separating the sexes.

    It truly is amazing how the most basic things have to be explained especially to someone who keeps claiming to be an Eagle scout.
     
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