Boycott and Divestment from Israel. Part 2.

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  1. moon

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    You're plainly squatting on the wrong patch. Libyan embassy staff have abandoned their jobs in London and elsewhere, the Libyan UN delegation has quit out of sympathy with the revolution. Again, your rabble-rousing is exposed and dispelled.
     
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    More likely quit as their overblown salaries would no longer be paid. No more swill at the islamo/fascist/nazi pig trough
     
  3. moon

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    Floyd always were one of the top intellectual bands and Waters was always a leading light. Here's to justice and peace.
     
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    Roger Waters was on Al Jazeera a few days ago being interviewed about this.
    You should be able to watch it from their archive.

    This is happening today.
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/168407.html

    Tahrir4Gaza site
    http://tahrir4gaza.net/

    Quote by ex US Marine Ken O Keefe

    As the Arab people continue to exercise unarmed yet mighty power, there is one place above all others that remains at the heart of the struggle, Palestine. Despite all the money, propaganda, weapons, false imprisonment, ethnic cleansing, torture and mass-murder wielded against them, they have endured, and they remain, unmovable, they are the people of Palestine.

    The most powerful thing of all that has occurred in the ongoing uprisings is this, people have begun to believe, that ANYTHING is possible. I have lived with that knowledge for many years, I have seen, smelled and touched a better world. I have felt rage and I have cried, watching as my fellow human beings remained imprisoned within the chains of mental enslavement. And yet I knew, we were just one catalysing event away from massive acceleration in human consciousness and direct action. And in these days I have cried yet again, with tears of joy as I watched my Egyptian brothers and sisters what would have been considered impossible less than a month ago. And together we know, ANYTHING is possible.

    There are those who fear Israel, the Egyptian Military, or simply the unknown, but such people remain in the time when we were slaves. Well we are slaves no more, and for those of us absent of fear and powered by love of justice, we are going to Gaza. And as we march we shall not be alone, we shall carry with us the will of the people of the world who know what we know, Palestine will be free. We the people, we are the ultimate power, and we can do ANYTHING! —Ken O’Keefe in Gaza
     
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    Here it is

    Riz Khan with Roger Waters

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdX5WpRrwtM"]YouTube - Riz Khan - Walls of division[/ame]
     
  6. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    The thing that some people do not understand is that Israel is never going away! Not without a world war anyway. We the last super power on earth will flat out kick butt and take names to destroy anyone that attempts to harm Gods chosen people and nation. Why? Because over three quarters of American citizens ID as christian*! Look its no mystery to Christians why Israel became a state in 1947, its exactly the way scripture predicted. It's not a coincidence that Israel is protected by the USA. Its no coincidence that she won every war she has engaged in! There is more fulfilled prophesy and prophesy being fulfilled to support my claims but I will refrain from mentioning the facts so as not accused of pyrolyzing.

    Kadafi will know how to respond to the lawless Jews in Israel? Ha ha yeah and we know how to drop laser guided bombs in his back yard! The next time they may be placed in his bedroom!

    *http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm

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    Iran is willing to start WW3 in the region of the ME in direct conflict with the desires of the rest of the ME and Europe and with total disregard for the other US allies in the region.

    ra
     
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    The only people who seriosly wish to destroy Israel are its followers, as present conditions demonstrate. Israel seems to be doing everything possible to ensure that is disliked and unwanted.
     
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    I would disagree. We are allies with Gods chosen people and nation, that is all that is important.

    Israel is doing what it must to survive, she is surrounded by jealous envious hostiles (for the most part). I would claim she is showing remarkable restraint! Look what happened to the USSR when they attempted to put a few nukes in Kuba'.

    Hey are you married? Wanna get married? Anyway are you a AK kinda of gal or a AR type of woman? (dont worry I like all of em') ....

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    do you ever stop to think what this must look like to people who are not extremist evangelicals?
     
  11. moon

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    There are no ' god's chosen people ' and America's ' christian ' population is largely Catholic . Nobody is anticipating any majority support for Zionism from the Catholic church once there is a Latino majority in America. That's if Zionism is still a going concern by then.

    Boycott and divestment from Israel can assist with accelerating the decline of Zionism. Every support for Israel's criminalities extends the period of neoZionist brutality against the region's indigenous peoples. Check your supermarket information for the sources of whatever you buy. Ask your banks and other financial institutions about their ethical policies. Support the law, not fascism. We have all done our bit to defeat fascism over two world wars. Our grandfathers and fathers have sacrificed much. Let's not allow fascists to erode our principles.
     
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    I have to disagree with that. There are "god's chosen people", and they are humanity which includes Palestinians. No group of people is any more special than another.
     
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    Sorry, judge, but the term ' chosen ' implies another group that weren't. There are no ' chosen ' people.
     
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    No. Why should I? The non-candy coated truth sometimes hurts. If I could not say that and mean it, I might as well be an atheist. If someone asks me why do I support Israel what should I do? Lie? Sorry if I you think I should be ashamed or something you should teach yourself more about Christianity and Christians. I would be exceedingly ashamed if I did not mention the religious importance of Israel when asked about that nation! You may want to begin with Isaiah 1:24 maybe then you may understand why I so love Israel.

    Oh some may say why must you make everything about religion? I would answer; 'because its the real existence and true paradigm.' If I left out the religious part about Israel I would not be answering truthfully! Now if you would ask me about a 1957 Harley Davidson Sportster, God would not enter into that convo. However if you mentioned a 1929 JD well I might have to reference God ...ha ha..~

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    Israel has nothing to do with prophesy. That was invented in 1830 and its bad theology.

    .. Khadafi invited Libyan Jews to return to Libya.. but what is happening in Libya has NOTHING to do with Israel.

    As for Israel.. The US has several other allies in the ME.. namely Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain... and our oldest and most loyal ally since 1933.. Saudi Arabia.

    I wouldn't bet on this president or the next fighting any wars for Israel.
     
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    According to my religion Issac was of the divine birth Ishmael was not. Ishmael fathered the Arab race, Issac the Jewish race. I could get technical but I don't beleive this thread is the place to discuss Islam vs Christianity. I am not trying to convert anyone, these are my, as well as a couple billion more or less Christians beliefs. If you or anyone else wants to beleive a different religion I say that is your right.

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    Iran will never attack Israel.. or Europe or the neighbors, but Israel will beat you to death with their phony fear and lies about how afraid they are of Iran.
     
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    According to the bible, all humans came from Adam and Eve. Thus, the human race is the "chosen people".
     
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    With all due respect do you know your history? Iran has made its intentions clear with the rants of her president who calls for the genocide of the Israeli people, and the total destruction of the nation of Israel. It is statements such as yours (and I am sure you beleive them with all your heart) that demonstrate how well Arab propaganda and the brainwashing machine that is the liberal world media has worked against Israel. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by hostile neighbors. The TRUTH is that the Arab nations initiated the real violence ie the four wars against Israel and other acts of aggression, not Vice-versa:

    * 1948 War of Independence
    * 1956 Sinai War
    * 1967 Six Day War
    * 1973 Yom Kippur War

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    This is a heavily racist claim, demonstrating the utter hatred of Semites. Israel attacked in 1956 and 1967. That's history and you cannot change that regardless of how often you bombard Semites with racism.
     
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    I have noticed that you have a problem with the word 'Semites' and the word 'racist'. Allow me to help your understand (if you are using the word in some artistic fashion, just ignore the following). Semites relate to people of the ancient Near East, including Jews (secular and religious... mine), Arabs, Babylonians, Assyrians, and Phoenicians. First allow me to grant you the benefit of the doubt by asking you what part of my claim was racist and why? Maybe we can dodge a spanking.

    If you mean the Arabs or Palestinians etc I will tell you that I deeply resent you making a malicious false deceptive claim that I hate the 'Semites'. I hate no one! My religion forbids me to 'hate'. I do hate the actions ie the sins etc of those nations and individuals that have a desire to destroy Israel. The president of Iran has repeatedly called for the destruction of her. There are so many sources to support that claim that I would just ask you to Google it and stand back as your computer melts down trying to process all the affirmative hits. SMOKIN' ! as the dood in the mask would say...ha ha ha...ahhh ! ~

    Wrong only in 56' did Israel attack first. In all the other attacks, her enemies cowardly attacked en mass. Again I suggest you clean up your personal attacks by claiming racism. We all are raciest by degrees however, not racist in the capacity that you are insinuating.

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    No, interesting claim but it fails on several areas! First don't you remember that Mr and Mrs Eve fell out of favor with God? Huh? Nevertheless, and this is important, God made a COVENANT with Abraham, promising him lands etc~ of course both Issac and Ishmael is Abe's son but Issac is 'special' (divine birth). If you like I could enlighten you in the theology or better yet point you toward as to why Issac is of divine birth.

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    Of course, I've never claimed otherwise.

    It is heavily racist because you insist on repeating a lie in order to bash on another group of people in a hostile manner.

    You personally may hate no one or have no desire to do so, but your writings are heavily bias and strongly unfair towards certain groups of Semites. Continuously accusing them of attacking when they obviously did not attack, is just not right.


    Israel also attacked first in 1967 and all historical documentations confirm this. Thus, your claim is based on racism since it is complete fiction.
     
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    If you are basing that on the media reports of the "Wipe Israel off the map" hoax then you are wrong. He actually said something more like "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

    Attributing fake words, then exaggerating further to make your point is dishonest. Either you are complicit or still believe the deliberate propaganda.
     
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    What? Where do you get that information (please?). For curiosity sake, are you speaking about Dispensationalism? If you are claiming that, I so strongly disagree with you that we have a huge problem Ms Margot!

    Not yet.

    Egypt? Ha, ha, yes umm’ well that is yet to be determined! Saudi Arabia? Maybe they would stand behind us maybe not! And the rest you mention would need a trial by fire, which is coming soon, an radioactive one to boot!

    Obama is a wuss IMO. However to save his own political skin I guarantee he would attack any country that truly threatened Israel with a war that it appeared she would lose. At first we would spend billions under the table, then if that did not work, just like Nam we would send in advisers etc. However, in that horrifying multi-megaton powder keg that is the ME, where all the worlds oil or the majority resides, and its future is tied to military actions..... ANYGEDDION could happen….!!!!

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