Britain Is Bleeding

You keep asking for proof and it shows that you continue not to understand even very basic science. I can not keep explaining this to you

 

Guns make every sort of killing easier everywhere, and civilized countries control them. Look up the comparative figures. May be the phases of the moon that causes the difference, but I tend to doubt it!

 

you cannot find a country anything like the USA that passed laws that take guns away from honest people that improved its statistics

and why the nonsense-when you call honest gun owners "nutters" its obvious that its not criminals you are upset about but conservative gun owners and thus you push laws designed to harass the people you don't like

 

We can find lots of countries with less gun deaths per capita than ours....guess what they have in common

 

no fourth amendment/

 

Gun control

 

which is enforceable because there is no fourth amendment. almost none of them have background checks but rather gun bans. You apparently are supporting gun bans now

 

I never was. Are you still supporting them?

 

you keep praising other countries for having lower rates of gun violence. Those countries have gun bans. If you don't support gun bans, why do you keep talking about those countries? I don't support gun bans. I don't support laws that restrict the rights of honest gun owners. Its already illegal to harm someone in any way with a gun unless you are being threatened. ITs also illegal for people adjudicated to be an increased threat, if armed, to be armed. I don't think additional restrictions are merited. You however, praise countries that prevent honest people from owning all guns, or many types of guns. So you can understand our confusion when you constantly praise those countries and then claim you don't support gun bans. Just about every country that you compare to the USA have gun bans

 

You keep blaming blacks for the gun violence in this country. If you don't want to ban them from guns what do you mean?

 

I'd like you to find a single post where I blame blacks for gun violence. I do note that the gun banner/restrictionist mantra that more guns=more crimes is dishonest because whites have far more guns per capita than blacks do (in terms of legal gun ownership) but whites have much lower rates of gun crime. Unlike gun restrictionists, I strongly oppose punishing innocent people for the actions of criminals. Thus I oppose the current concepts of "gun control" which punishes thousands for the actions of a few, and thus I oppose laws that often target innocent blacks/

Lets look at las vegas: for ten years or more, bump fire stocks have been available. Most of the gun haters didn't even know what those things were 30 days ago. Within a day after the shooting, the usual gun haters in Washington, supported by their toadies in the media, were screaming to ban those things. In other words, punishing thousands of people who own them because one nutcase killed some people apparently using a bump stock. Never mind that he might have killed as many without one or with other devices such as the bombs he was trying to make or his planes.

 

It's just one nut case....after another...after another....after another. That is getting so old. Mental illness is not exclusive to the US. But boy we have the market cornered on mass shootings in first world countries. Why is that?

 

well lets actually do some thinking. The Vegas shooter had a clean record and was a top one percenter in terms of income. He worked for the IRS at one time which makes his record even more "trustworthy" to government types. NOTHING you claim you support would have changed his ability to do what he did.

so you either have to admit your schemes wouldn't have changed that shooting or you have to deny your prior claims that you oppose massive gun bans and storm trooper style confiscations. so you are left to whine about the massacre without having any solutions.

 

How about the fact that he bought dozens of weapons in the last year and that does not even trigger an interview with the feds? How can you not see this?

 

why do they have time to interview a guy with a spotless record when they don't have time to crackdown upon convicted criminals who commit federal perjury by lying on (and then being denied after the check) federal form 4473. In what bizarro world is buying guns with a clean record probable cause?

 

Do you know what happens if you deposit more than 5,000 a month in cash into a bank account repeatedly? We know this is w hat people do who have gained cash in illegal transactions. Guess what happens if you do that? And that happens a lot more than someone buying dozens of guns in a year. Why do you defend these people? It makes me sick

 

well let me explain things to you. that sort of financial activity is investigated because based on HISTORY, such actions create a strong suspicion of illegal activity. you see, in the past, such actions were often linked to drug trafficking or a crime known as structuring (which to tax evasion is akin to a masking agent being used by an athlete who is "doping")

there is no real history of a rich guy with a clean record, who buys lots of high end guns (I have a few DD rifles and those are 1200 minimum) engaging in acts of terrorism or mass murder. Therefore there was no reason for the ATF to interview the man (which would have been a waste of time anyway). you are trying to pretend that hindsight has merit. It doesn't. This is one of perhaps a handful of cases, where a millionaire bought a lot of guns and then misused them.

 

You protect these people. It's disgusting. It's an interview. Hurts no one. But you will protect them. It makes me sick

 

wrong, as usual. I tell the truth. can you find a SINGLE CASE where a multimillionaire with a clean record, bought 15 or so guns in a year, passing a background check every time, then used those guns to commit mass murder. Your faux outrage is a joke. and how am I "protecting them". what probable cause did any law enforcement agency have to even interview the guy? NONE WHATSOEVER, unless you believe (as you apparently do) that buying lots of guns though dealers and a background check, is probable cause to believe a crime will be committed?

 

Oh BTW if the guy said "because I can" and leave my property, the ATF would have had no choice but to leave

 

Perhaps that they should refrain from engaging in criminal behavior, and assist law enforcement in identifying the problematic members of their community, rather than claiming that they did not see anything transpire.

As the old saying goes, if one is not part of the solution, then they are a part of the problem.

 

Well I certainly have a single case now. But go ahead and protect them. It's an interview. How horrible! Oh the harrassment! You are clueless about law enforcement

 

Are you brand new to any concept of law enforcement?

 

Yes. Just say it. You believe blacks are the problem.....right?

 

why don't you explain what the ATF could do if Paddock told them to beat it

what probable cause did they have

you do understand what probable cause means?