Buffalo Police Confiscate Registered Guns Of the Deceased

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  1. danielpalos

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    This is in a State Constitution:

    The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

    There is no need to delegate any more police power than that.
     
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    Weren't you the same guy who said states rights take priority over the federal govt. ?
     
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    There are 4 million members to the NRA. At $35 bucks a member, that's over 140 million dollars.
    Their income in 2013 was 350 million and expenses were 295 million. If you think the are loyal to the members alone, you don't even walk upright. My dog can figure that one out. The gun makers make up muchof the rest so the NRA can take the heat for mass murders and not the gun makers.

    Btw, Tobacco has their own donation scheme and it ends up in the same place as the NRA's donations; the PACs that support the GOP. The NRA IS a PAC.....deal with it.
     
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    And why would gun manufacturers take "heat" for mass murders? Is it the guns fault that someone uses it illegally? By that logic, as a gun owner and gun manufacturer supporter, you are also responsible for mass murder, as is every legal gun owner in the country.

    Your assumption is that gun licenses, registration, and background checks is the solution, when we all know those who commit these acts participate in none of them.

    Until such time as the government puts real penalties on violent criminals for their actions, the violence will continue.
     
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    if there are no licensed handgun owners who are the legal heirs of the deceased, the guns get confiscated.

    big deal.

    if they were shotguns or rifles, the guns would go to their relatives, no questions asked
     
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    I do not believe government can exert more control through more punishment.
    I think some level of violence is just something we are going to have to accept as the cost of freedom.
     
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    Of course they can.

    One of the reasons that Operation Exile was so successful saving Richmond from falling to DC levels of violence, was that the criminals did not want to be found in possession of weapons due to the mandatory penalties involved.

    When we have a 70% recidivism rate, and 80% of those committing violent crimes are those with long criminal records, they are not intimidated by the current penalties under law.
     
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    Tell that to the Jews in 1930 Germany. People don't always vote for the right and just.
     
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    Until you dive into the numbers and realize that anywhere outside of major metro centers has the murder rate of your average western or northern European country. You might want to look further into your statistics. A great example of this is Chicago. Look at Chicago ownership vs gun murder rate vs population then deduct that the rest of Illinois and make the same comparison. The murder rate in Chicago is 2.5 times higher than the rest of the state while having 1/5 the legal ownership rate and 1/5.5 of the total population. You can then do the same comparison to Washington dc, Detroit michigan, etc, etc
     
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    The firearms are not simply confiscated, they are destroyed so they cannot be reclaimed. And they are being confiscated in violation of the guidelines included in the law itself.
     
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    so, why is this not being litigated in open court?
     
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    Don't have a hissy. They are guns, not heart transplant pumps. The gun makers are happy to make millions more. Think of it as....capitalism in action. Take your legal team up there and advise these poor people of their rights.
     
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    What you see as firearms, those who are affected may regard as family heirlooms due to how long they have been owned.

    It is not simply common firearms that are destroyed, but all firearms. Even those that are rare, long discontinued, and command high prices among collectors.
     
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    Dagosa posted;

    "Don't have a hissy. They are guns, not heart transplant pumps. The gun makers are happy to make millions more. Think of it as....capitalism in action. Take your legal team up there and advise these poor people of their rights."

    What Dagosa fails to realize is that some rare guns that do not look like much may be be worth conservatively $ 250,000 U.S. Dollars
     
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    Is this just more soothsaying from the right or are there no "loopholes" for family heirlooms.
     
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    If that heirloom is an original condition Colt 1875 single action revolver, in 80 %,,,,, serial # 23 it is very expensive...
     
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    It may not be an "heirloom" if it is not very unique.
     
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    Its serial number 23 its age and condition and scarcity make it unique.
     
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