Yes of course...through some emotion into it. "REPUBLICANS WANT PEOPLE TO DIE", would have been easier. What a joke the left has become....
Do you also believe that everybody should go to the best schools and colleges and live in the best houses. Your view of equality seems rather quirky, if not contradictory.
That's what the man said. Don't blame me that you conservatives are amoral. I notice you didn't deny the policy. Which is typical of your disingenuous way of arguing. We know a purely privatized system of health care means poor people die on the street. We know that because it happened here in America. That's why we instituted Medicare and Medicaid. Typically, you have no knowledge of history and think that stuff just happens.
Come on fellas don't let this degrade into the typical your a (place politiotic-idiotology here) because you don't see things my way. The topic is Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan/scheme/campaign promise. Any pros or cons to the plan would be welcome.
The wealthy are not expanding, hiring, investing in research even though they pay the lowest taxes in 60 years. Lowering taxes on the wealthy doesn't create more jobs, more investment in business, more research and development, all it does is give them more money to speculate with.
That's a common leftist view, actually I would call it more like an out and out lie. I'm a business owner...I would love to not be strapped with all these CORPORATE taxes, CAPITAL gains taxes, STATE taxes, PAYROLL taxes, WORKMAN'S COMP insurance, GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS, HEALTH INSURANCE costs...you want to see me be able to higher...start lowering, and omitting them...and I will expand and hire tomorrow. You don't know what you are talking about, really...do you?
con: It lowers taxes on the wealthy; eliminating capital gains, lowering income tax to 9%. In order to remain revenue neutral, that tax revenue would have to be made up somewhere, and that somewhere would be the middle and lower class. con: even though the plan does increase burden on the lower and middle class, it would not actually remain revenue neutral. con: The vat adds complexity. Cain himself does not even know enough about his own plan, to be able to tell us whether or not the price paid for a laptop would increase under his tax system. Well sure you would,...I mean C'mon, who in their right mind wouldn't love to have more money? (rhetorical question) Unfortunately, not all businessmen are as trustworthy as I'm sure you are. That said, I am in favor of incentives (including tax incentives) for businesses that hire more people and or increase worker pay. -Meta
JUst wondering what would be wrong with people who earn it being able to have more money...whether they provide jobs or not.
Nothing. In fact, I think that that is the way it should be. Though I have a hunch, that you and I might not agree as to what constitutes earning. -Meta
My belief is that the amount one earns is based upon the amount of usefulness that that person creates. -Meta
Yeah, we'd all love to have a free lunch. You do realize business insisted on workers comp. It was put into place to deal with all the lawsuits filed against businesses for work related injuries, and the uncertainties that caused. Many unions were against workers comp. since it capped recovery. You aren't aware of that. Oh dear. I love it when **********s pretend to be businessmen, when in fact they don't understand the first thing about accounting and tax principles.
On a macroeconomic level there's plenty wrong with that, since it would eventually lead to the starvation of capital for expanding the economy and hence a lower standard of living for all but a few. Hey, that's exactly what's happening!
So you happily accept the tax breaks/benefits to encourage you to hire American workers, but basically refuse to do so. So we can add you to the long list of so-called job creators who's motto is F(*)(*)(*) the good old US of A economically, as long as I get mine, right?? Honestly??
WHAT TAX BREAKS??? WHAT BENEFITS???? Here's your problem, like the rest of you people that DO NOT understand what it's like to be in business. Unless you are a billion dollar company...you get ZERO TAX BREAKS, YOU HAVE ZERO LOOPHOLES. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I love it when leftist liberals try to sound like they know anything about anything with regard to business...and they just show their complete ignorance with each post. What does this have to do with anything I said? NOTHING Also, I'd be willing to bet our entire company on the fact that there are way more people in the TEA PARTY that own businesses, than there are in the OCCUPY WALL STREET BS that's happening right now. Why would anyone need to pretend?
I get it, have along. Tax breaks to create jobs is a pointless talking point and a scam perpetrated by the best government corporate money can buy. Tax breaks do not create jobs!!! If anything they funnel jobs to another dominating source. Tax loopholes, tax breaks/incentives, and cronyism exemptions that literally riddle the tax code are in place to directly benefit the rich corporations and destroy their competition, small/up and coming business, who already have enough problems to deal with. They and the largest majority of the (WTF) regulations are in place to accomplish one thing and one thing only, maximize profits for a few isolated selective corporate entities. So does voting for one of the two corporate owned controlling political parties. Trust me I get it. Wish more people did. 　 Exactly why 9-9-9 wouldn’t become law even if it was a honest attempt at tax reform, which it isn’t. 　 Thanks for playing along. 　 　 People like me???
Yup. It would perhaps be a utopia. I don't pretend that such perfection is possible, but certainly, we do have the ability to work towards it for the betterment of society as a whole. -Meta
No, clearly you don't get it. Because they do...especially for small businesses already in operation, and for starting a new business as well. Absolutely positively.
In most cases...yes. Do I think there are people earning far more than what they are worth...yes of course. Is it your job to police that? No. You are worried that someone makes too much, far more than you are worried about people that do nothing, but EXCEPT to be compensated. That I think is pretty clear. You can't nor should you have a piece of someone else's wealth whether you think he/she is worthy or not...you certainly are not ENTITLED to it, and you most definitely do not DESERVE it.
Who said anything about me being worried about someone making too much? Who said anything about it being my job to do anything about that??? Why do you think I care about getting someone else's wealth? I never said anything like that. Why do you think I'm not entitled to anything, Why do you believe I don't deserve something? It isn't as if I've been going around saying that I deserve anything. -Meta
Well I meant "you" in a general sense really. But, you are right you didn't. I apologize. So, how do you feel about what I said? Do you or don't you agree...just replace the would "you" with "people" and start over.....
Are you schizophrenic? You just said that the Bush tax cuts (tax breaks for job creation) don't work, and then you say they do work, make up my mind??
