Can ALL cultures fit in?

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by Oxyboy, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    LOL

    Yep, blame someone else.

    These people hack each other up just as much as anyone else.

    Trust the blame brigade to have it so wrong.

    I can just see Mak running around a group of blind drunk blacks spreading her good will.....
     
  2. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Oxyboy,
    have you read Hitler's *Mein Kampf*?

    http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/

    It looks like you are moving on similar grounds. He hated Jews, and you blind drunken blacks. Racism will never stop, will it?
    At your age I would expect much more, but well everyone has an opinion, I guess.
    You enjoy Anzac and all your other patriotic ill thinking, I will welcome all people, whether black or white or yellow or else, as long as they know how to behave. And most do, by the way...
    Life is too short to hate others, especially without knowing them.
    Enjoy your weekend, cheers m2catter
     
  3. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    It's very depressing when people bring out the Nazi associations. What Oxyboy said had absolutely nothing to do with any type of Nazism.

    Mak, what possibly justification can you have to say that the Sudanese immigrants are not at fault and it is just "racist Australian bogans" that are the problem? The Sudanese have just been through a civil war and are breaking into two separate countries. They come from a very violent and unlawful place. They're not some happy go-lucky passive people who can only react to the actions of whites. They're not going to suddenly change from their cultural backgrounds just because they come to Australia. Many of them will have grown up in a war zone where violence is relatively common. It is naive to just blame everything on the "white racists".
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The vast majority of Sudanese are NOT here to fight. Why do the majority get blamed for what a few of them do? Its because racist bogans in this country (mainly Liberals) can't put aside their racist attitudes and act like proper Australians.
     
  5. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    Who said that the "majority of Sundanese are here to fight"?

    This hasn't really been that much of a public issue, the vast majority of Australians are happy to have anyone from any background who is a productive law abiding citizen.

    When refugees or immigrants start breaking the law, there begin to be issues.
     
  6. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Yes it has, raving against blacks or other etnical minorities does that indeed, especially with made up articles from a third class newspaper.
    It is not the first time for this view being expressed by him.
    For Hitler it was Jews, gipsys, and basically everyone else not being Aryan, and for some on this forum not being of white Australian descendant or background means you never fully qualify. Sad it is....
    Cheers
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Yeap, you are right there, the law should be the same for everyone.
    I wonder what rate all crimes committed by refugees or Sudanse or African Blacks would add up to, 1% or maybe 2%?
    Never hurts looking in the mirror, before lashing out on others...
    That applies certainly for all of us,
    m2catter
     
  8. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    I'm just going to ignore all that about the Nazis.

    Your points are redundant. Since it's just a minority of "racist bogan Australians" that apparently think that the Sudanese are "just here to cause trouble", who the hell cares? But there is no escaping the fact that some of the Sudanese in particular, coming from a notoriously war-torn country, have some serious issues. Why must we dodge this real problem? Obviously not all Sudanese are the same, I've been to Sudan and not all of the country is totally retarded, certainly the capital isn't. I can understand why these kids have certain issues with violence. I never said that "Aussie kids" don't have issues with violence either.
     
  9. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Hi Zig,
    your choice to ignore the Nazi analogy, but the signs are similar, at least for me.

    I hope you are right with the *minority*. It looks to me that this minority is ever growing, which is my concern.

    It just makes me sick to the stomach if I see people lashing out at minorities while ignoring our own violent problems.

    Have a great Monday, regards
     
  10. Oxyboy

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    LOL don't hate 'em at all. Grown up around lots of 'em, that's for sure.

    As for the Hitler rubbish....well.....just rubbish.
     
  11. Oxyboy

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    Crivens! You think your in America, hey.

    The ALP is the strong hold of the unions. I can tell you for a fact that many many many union members are racist.

    Try again.....

    :bored:
     
  12. Recusant

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    I watched Q&A the other night. Najeeba Wazefadost fits in fine if you ask me (yeah, i'd hit it :mrgreen:)

    Those Hazara girls can be absolutely beautiful. I used to occasionally chat to one on a bus. Stunningly attractive.

    Maybe that should be our test, like Ali-G's test: Hotties allowed - always :)
     
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    I find the Labor/Union alliance at times is as interesting (and bizarre) as the Nationals/Liberals alliance. Quite often the policies and ethics are a complete contradiction, yet they hang in there.
     
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    Oxyboy New Member

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    True.

    It amuses me when people use the "Mainly Libs" boulderdash. They forget that unions are ALP and many of their members support the ALP for that reason.
     
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    Another blaming a Lib persuasion!!

    NFI

    Anyone care to comment on the 3 wild brawls and injured policemen in 3 nights? Detention riots? These things ACTUALLY happen, you know!

    LOL

    Fear mongering and blame the Lib's, the last great out for the ignorant.
     
  17. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    I didnt blame Liberals, I just noted it was from a minority group within them that the whole 'multiculturalism is bs' has come from.


    Yes, crimes, so what? Show me how the crime was result of multiculturalism then you'll have a case.

    Not at all. "Stop the boats" and "we're being invaded" IS BIGOTED FEAR MONGERING.
     
  18. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    In your opinion.

    In my opinion stopping the boats halts the mysery of the people smuggling trade.

    Am i wrong?
     
  19. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    ...people coming in boats fleeing a war in their country should be let in, and not put into detention centres, or only for a very short time.
    I think we should welcome those people. They had enough hardship, why make it even harder for them?
    Regads
     
  20. Oxyboy

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    But the issue is we have to try and assess if their claim for asylum is real.

    Many arrive without any ID or paperwork (deliberate?), via many ports of call.

    No where near as easy as you make it sound.
     
  21. AshenLady

    AshenLady New Member Past Donor

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    It is difficult in cultures that aren't patriarchal to have the same family set-up as we do in the USA.

    It can happen, but it's more difficult for all concerned.
     
  22. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL The "misery of the smuggling trade" which is just sooo appalling poor people are scrambling like mad to utilize such a service :rolleyes: Like I said, bigoted fear mongering. Thanks for proving it.

    See above.
     
  23. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL Yeah, so do it on the mainland and do it faster - ie bigger quota for immigrants.

    No excuse for excessive detention and low rates of entrance.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right.
     
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    Except - they HAVE to pass quarantine - and includes and encompasses TB - particularly in light of the very resistant strains of TB being found around the world
     

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