Can hate win an election?

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  1. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Yep.
     
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    I would let Americans make them feel uncomfortable
     
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    Short of harassment, how so?
     
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    Are you 5? Or 12? Having to sit in class rooms with many different cultures? Clusters of foreigners being fascists? In school you should be practicing communicating skills you can’t do that when you have clusters of kids they refuse to speak English
     
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    Tell them to speak English, tell the truth about their culture
     
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    I went to school with several immigrants, some of whom didn't know English yet. They learned. Turns out that is easier to do when racist and xenophobes aren't being thuggish bullies. And I saw more "fascism" from the native-born folk.
     
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    urban inner city schools are a huge difference from suburban schools.
     
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    I grew up in rural school, not suburban. And I still find this excuse to be nonsense. BTW, lots of research shows that immigrants and their children are actually MORE law-abiding than natural-born citizens are. In fact, it typically takes at least three generations before the descendants of immigrants start behaving as poorly as other native-born folk. And it takes everyone time to learn a new language. It took your ancestors time, and it took my ancestors time. All you are doing is echoing the same lame arguments that were made against your ancestors.
     
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    WHERE? Your phrasing here is very awkward & so not perfectly clear (which is a complaint I have generally about your posts), but what you seem to be describing is HYPOCRISY, to which I am very much opposed. So if you are going to make this insinuation, at least have the MINIMAL DECENCY-- your own sense of morality & what is, "right," has been your chief talking point, at any rate, in this conversation, & this is NOT the first time you've inferred negative things about my character (as that I supported criminals) without a shred of underlying foundation for your implications-- to SHOW ME, & EVERYONE, WHERE YOU GET THIS IDEA. Otherwise, you can take your snivelling claims and your cowardly slanders elsewhere.
     
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    But what would their legal citizenship be? That's important when getting a passport.
     
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    Yes Americans are struggling with the immigration,, It’s what happens when you destroy urban education and replace American jobs with foreigners who lower wages.it’s what happens when you destroy urban education and replace American jobs with foreigners who lower wages. thank you for agreeing with me.. and I agree immigrants are doing great, they practice fascism in their communities, and have strong families
     
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    We are conditioned to hate each other so we don't unite and hate what our government is taking from us. Divide and conquer.
     
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    Same as it was when Americans celebrated fascism. Why not go back to these days?
     
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    The only thing I got out of your post was how unwilling conservatives & Trump supporters continue to be about working with the facts. All you did here was evade the question. That's so Trumpian. :(:democrat:
     
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    The informed ones aren't.

    Economics is not a zero-sum game. They used to teach this in Econ 101, but I guess they don't anymore. I've written papers about this, I've thoroughly researched this. If you one day decide to base your opinion on evidence instead of xenophobic superstition, I'd be happy to share.

    If that's what you think, then you haven't actually read my posts.

    And now it looks like they no longer teach what the word "fascism" actually means in schools, and so now people just make **** up.
     
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    The children of immigrants, born in the US, have been considered citizens since the 1860s. Is that what you originally meant by "the 60s"? The 1860s?

    But I appreciate your admission that your goal here is fascism.
     
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    The Hate of Hillary Clinton won in 2016, so why shouldn't the Democrats use that same strategy?
     
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    I think urban areas need a halt on immigration and refugees and allow the ones here to assimilate so we have a similar country going forward ave not a divided one
     
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    Yes we want to be informed like you. Let us go to the same schools you went to.
    Write a paper? I live it every day.. why didn’t you ask me before you wrote your paper?
    I’m
    From their neighborhoods,, I know what I’m talking about.. why would I lie?
     
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    Didn't get it from schools. Got it from actually going out and researching. That's where the evidence lead.

    Because I rely on evidence and reason, not anecdotes.

    I'm not saying you are lying. I'm saying you are misunderstanding/misinterpreting.
     
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    If you look at the demographics Americans immigration was only from European countries.. very few brown countries
     
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    Glad to hear you admit your actual issue here.
     
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    Well you did research because your school taught you. Urban areas not so much.. let us get that same opportunity..
    I am the evidence where do you think facts come from?
    What’s the misunderstanding? Look at what happen to urban areas after the 60’s. Drugs, and generations of struggling American families in these areas.. and the only thing that changed was the demographics..
     
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    That new immigration Didnt and won’t assimilate? Yes it’s destroyed urban Americans
     
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    Yes, I did learn an awful lot about how to do honest research from school. Not sure why you hate evidence-based decision making so much.

    Anecdotes are not "evidence."

    No, hun, that's far from the only thing that happened. But I appreciate your continued admission about what this is really about.
     

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