Can the KKK, the Black Panther, and Other Similar Groups Be Considered As Terrorists?

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Is the KKK terrorist organization?

Poll closed Feb 16, 2015.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree. Go by the definition of the words rather than the time period and it's very easy to see.
     
  2. kreitleinn

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    The black panther is just as violent as the kkk. Several Black Panthers are now extremist Muslims and cause celebres in the Islamofascist community, like convicted, imprisoned cop-killer Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin a/k/a H. Rap Brown. Al-Amin, who bragged, “Violence is as American as cherry pie,” killed one sheriff’s deputy and wounded another in March 2000. The group–so vicious, so violent–even savagely tortured and murdered its own. The disgusting way they tortured and dismembered their living victims was so sick, it rivals that of the Islamic terrorists we are fighting now. Ungreat minds think alike.
     
  3. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    I don't really care much if you disagree. I've looked into the policies promoted by the parties, and throughout, the GOP was always on the conservative side of the issues, democrats on the liberal side.
     
  4. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol Lincoln was a progressive. Whatever, I don't care that you're the only person in America that thinks the GOP has always been conservative.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    What pro-life group bombed an abortion clinic? I know some anti-abortion extremist bombed some clinics a long time ago but as far as I know they all acted on their own. Were they terrorist, yes one could make that case.

    Was Bill Ayers and his fellow Weathermen terrorists, yep. Has he ever rebuked his past actions, no he defends them.

    Are the Black Panthers, in the past they committed some terrorist acts.
    KKK, in the past they committed terrorist acts.
    There are environmental terrorist groups.

    Should we commit the same resources towards them as we do the Islamic terrorist..............I don't think so.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Democrats to cover up there decades of opposing civil rights and voting rights for blacks. And the Democrats won elections in the South in the 80's even as the voting demographics shifted and that shift had nothing to do with segregation. Segregation only found a home in the Democrat party.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    yes, we should stop all terrorists, be it a Christian abortion clinic bomber\killer or what not
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Or an atheist Bill Ayers, or a Muslim Black Panther or a Socialist environmentalist or Buddhist environmentalist?
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, anyone committing such crimes should be prosecuted for such crimes


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  10. blackharvest216

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    Okay when did the black panthers torture anyone? The kkk killed and tortured millions of innocent men women and children? And you thinks that's" just as violent"? The ONE example was a former member of a group that hadn't been around for years so how is it their fault?

    By your logic the tea party is a terrorist group for all the innocent people their members have killed
     
  11. upside-down cake

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    There is a lot of political propaganda trying to undo the near monopoly Democrats seem to have on the minority vote. One of these methods is to suggest that the Klu Klux Klan are liberals and liberal policy reflects that of the Klu Kux Klan.

    First, you'd have to realize that the actual meaning of the words "liberal" and "conservative" and the policies of the political parties are two different things. For instance, conservatives generally lean towards deregulation- which is a liberal policy. It is definitely true that Democrats were the party under which the KKK was formed, but that was in a different time when the Democrat party stood for different things. Back then, they stood for deregulation and anti-federal intervention in their localized businesses. It was one of the reasons for the war- the North's increasing attempts to gain control over the South.

    However, that time has changed and rather than listening to party rhetoric, listen to the KKK members themselves. They self-identify as conservatives, vote conservative, etc...etc. They are a mix of ideologies today, however, since such things like States Rights are also Leftist policies. You'll see this odd mix-up in many policies including deregulation which champions government leaving business alone while relying on government to supplement business in a myriad of ways.
     
  12. After Hours

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    The "New black panther" party has had the low information conservatives pulling their hair out for about the last 6 years or so, despite the fact that they appear to be a very small group of irrelevant idiots that nobody with an once of intelligence takes seriously.

    What's funny though is that the same conservatives who believe the "New Black Panther" party is this gigantic group out there terrorizing white people on a daily basis, are also the same people who believe the KKK and other white supremacists groups basically don't exist anymore.
     
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    I quoted this post for the sole purpose of showing that not every conservative believes the revisionist tripe that the KKK was/is a bunch of liberals.
     
  14. PatriotNews

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    Regulation or deregulation is not conservative or liberal. There are good regulations and bad ones. The reason for the war was to end slavery. It was not some economic or 10th Amendment issue.

    The 10th Amendment is also not conservative or liberal, it is a part of the Constitution that both sides are supposed to support, if they support the Constitution (which granted, less so with the democrats of today).
     
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    True story
     
  16. kreitleinn

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    Who has the Tea party killed? by the way here are some links to black panther violence:
    http://wtvr.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warn...r-party-leader-inciting-violence-in-ferguson/
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2510/40-years-of-violence-murder-unhappy-anniversary-black-panthers/
    http://terrorism.about.com/od/groupsleader1/p/Black_Panthers.htm
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...nYHQDA&usg=AFQjCNFvsVo-ox4f8nQrXu5-a04mpySPjQ
     
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    While members of the KKK committed some horrendous acts "millions of innocent men women and children" is quite a stretch and there were more of them than Black Panthers.

    So why did the Democrat Party give them a home for so long?
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Well which KKK, it has gone through transformation since it's inception. During the civil rights era the Southern Democrats/KKK were Populist, a mix of conservative and liberal. And they were segregationist which was a different and separate issue.
     
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    They just killed two quite recently: http://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/te...lowers-kill-police-in-las-vegas-killing-spree

    If that had been the black panthers you would probably have all lost your minds and put all black people in prison

    Also your links show no new information please point out where all these murders are. Where they tortured and killed people

    So far I see one murdered police officer and I just showed you two murdered cops by the tea party members

    So if the black panthers are terrorists then so are the tea party
     
  20. ArmySoldier

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    Dislike the tea party, but they weren't the jacka(@s standing in uniform at voting stations with clubs and bats ensuring that they voted for their black president. That was just sickening. Shame on those bigots.
     
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    The Civil War was fought for a variety of reasons. Slavery was not the primary reason, but it was one of the major issues.

    Deregulation is liberal. It is the liberalization of the economic sector- giving them a much freer hand in their affairs. I think the new slang for it is "neo-liberalism".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

    This following other such liberal policies like giving corporations and such citizen status- that is the right to be treated like a living individual- accessible to such things like freedoms of speech and privacy and such.
     
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    But the ones who commit the acts are just a small minority, they do not represent the whole group and we should not condem the whole group, these are not KKK terrorist they are violent extremist..............................:confusion:
     
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    same is true with Muslims Terorists, just a small percent.... but their group is bigger, so that same small percent is a larger number
     
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    The Black Panthers of the Civil Rights Movement in the " 1960's a big No." The New Black Panthers.MAYBE,& KKK hell yes! Just my opinion!:confusion:
     
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    And what distinction do you put between the ones actually doing the fighting and millions in those countries who support them?
     

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