Carter Found Shot In The Head While In Police Car

both shot in the temple of the their weak side and under mysterious circumstances. need more?

 

FBI is involved, bet it turns out the guy had the gun stashed in the back of his pants, the police missed it and he was trying to stuff it down into eh seat and it discouraged. Not suicide just the final oops

some more info - gun was a stolen cobra .380, fairly small weapon. How could they miss it in a double search, (*)(*)(*)(*)ifiknow

http://www.kait8.com/story/19149968/police-release-more-information-in-chavis-carter-death

 

I'm out of here. The level of ignorance and stupidity about what happened is astounding. I thought I'd seen/read every ludicrous conspiracy theory possible in 'T's' case but I was wrong. The ganger-banger removed the cuffs then shoots himself in the temple then puts the cuffs back on? Some people REALLY need to lay off whatever it is thats screws their minds up so bad.

 

I agree the suicide theory is BS but that still does not mean he could not have accidentally shot himself. Was there stippling and powder burns on Carters skin, were there GSR patterns on the seat upholstery, on Carters hands, on the headliner of the police car? While it is preposterous that a small town like this would have a CSI lab the TV show have (also fiction BTW, even LA does not have one like the show has), the FBI certainly has the resources to determine exactly what happened. I say let the FBI do their job and if it looks like this was a execution style shooting then send the cops to death row.

 

Every small town police dept. has the ability to call the nearest FBI office and get them to do GSR tests. There are 'field kits' which can do preliminary GSR tests easily available. When the FBI report is made public it will show the dead gang-banger was trying to either use the gun or he was trying to hide the gun. In either case it's good news all-round for the tax payer.

 

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Well, what do you know?


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I saw this video on CNN and obviously I was wrong, it can be done, but questions still remain. I also saw the video of the arrest and watched the guys shirt. A handgun, similar to the 9mm Glock, is not easily concealed and it would have to be in the wasteband. I watched the light shirt the guy was wearing and there wasn't a gun in the wasteband. A 9mm Glock is a large handgun and I know for a fact that to completely conceal it would require wearing a coat and probably carrying it in a sholder holster. It can't be concealed under a light shirt.

So where did the gun come from? Was it in the backseat of the patrol car?

We also have a problem with the video because in the re-enactment the guy used his right hand but the vicitim was left handed. A left handed person wouldn't use their right hand to fire the weapon as it would be unnatural to do so.

We also have a problem with motive whether we look at the victim or the police. No one is going to commit suicide over a small pot bust. The police also lack motive to kill the guy.

Personally I'll wait for the FBI forensic report. If the guy shot himself he'll have spent powder on his hand. This is always present especially with an automatic because of the discharge of the shell casing.

All-in-all it's a very weird case all things considered.

 

According to this article Carter was shot with a .380 cobra. At six inches in length and a 3 inch barrel it would qualify as a sub compact. 10 round mag so I think that would be a single stack magazine so it would be relatively thin. Most manufacturers consider 5 inch barrel a full size, 4 inch barrel compact and 3 inch sub compact. I don't think Glock even makes anything smaller than a 9mm, that is considered a pocket or ladies gun.

Isn't the FBI still investigating it ?

 

The video is convincing for sure. But how did they miss a GUN?!?

 

Because they did. The gun was relatively small and if some one is going to walk around with a gun in their waste band they are going to make sure it isn't going to slide down their leg right? Small gun-tight waste band= if the cops didn't do a careful search the gun could easily have been missed. Remember the first time the dead thug was put in the car he wasn't cuffed.

 

So in other words if he DID shoot himself, the cops didn't do their jobs properly and should face consequences.

 

what would you recommend? public flogging ? Life in prison maybe ? Death row?

 

Why the hell would those even be considered?

 

Yes, the FBI is still investigating the case. If the firearm used in the video is accurate then it is not a small handgun. It may not be as large as a 9mm Glock but it wasn't small.

Once again though I watched a part of the arrest video from one of the officers car cameras. The officer patted both sides of the victim's waist but not the back. The shirt had "wrinkle" in the back but that moved as he moved and it clearly showed that nothing was in his waistband from what I could tell. I could be wrong but I don't believe that I am.

This still fails to address the fact that the victim was left-handed which makes a "right-handed" shot very, very improbable. It doesn't address the fact that the victim had no motive to commit suicide either.

As noted this is a weird case by any standard.

 

You're also forgetting that a shot to the side of the head makes you fall to the side, not forward.

 

Really? Can we see your evidence?

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You need evidence for simple physics?

If I run up behind you and push you, do you fall backward?

 

Probably not but it could lead to a civil suit that could result in a lot of compensatory and punative damages being awarded.

 

I wouldn't buy this as an absolute.

 

I asked for your evidence. So far, you've only provided questions. So, show us your evidence that "a shot to the side of the head makes you fall to the side, not forward."

Is that a medical examiner rule or something?

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Keeping in mind his surroundings...what would have counteracted the force pushing him to the side enough to make him slump forward?

 

It's a physics rule.

 

I am sure the guys mom is already looking at that angle but if it went to trial and I were a juror I would have a hard time giving anyone anything because some drug dealer shot himself.

 

Gravity.


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In accordance with the Talmudic rules laid down at the US Nuremburg trials, the cops are guilty and should be tortured into confessing. Plus, all hearsay should be accepted as evidence against them.