CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"

CDC Emails: Our Definition of Vaccine is "Problematic"

https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine


Redefinition and push for boosters because the treatment does not stop infection and spread.

 

Yes indeedy, first corrupt the language, and what follows naturally is the corruption of the thought processes.

Fauci and his criminal cohorts should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

 

I don't understand the problem here.

These vaccines we have for COVID are not the only vaccines we commonly administer that cause significant protection but then gradually decrease over time.

I think the real problem is that people have started to see "immunity" as an absolute. That if you are immune, that means you can't possibly contract the target pathogen today or anytime in the future.

Obviously, neither our vaccines nor protection gained by contracting and getting over a disease provide that kind of absolute immunity, though for some vaccines the protection is long lasting.

Judging vaccines as useless or as a plot against society on the grounds that the protection isn't absolute or permanent is just plain IDIOTIC.

Because of that common mistake, it seems reasonable for the CDC to move to a definition that is more likely to convey what science based medicine has ALWAYS stated to be the truth.

 

No, the real problem is that Biden and many others used fake science to turn Americans against each other. Ofc we know that a vaccine may not stop the spread! Especially with a novel virus. That's exactly why they shouldn't demonize people for not taking it.

 

Your attempts to make this a politically driven conspiracy theory TOTALLY disqualify you.

 

I'm the one being threatened. As of January 4, I'm homeless. This is far beyond political buddy. You cannot dispute the fact that they sold, and many still are, the lie that the vaccine stops the spread. In fact Biden just said it as I'm typing. It doesn't. Are you disputing that? Or are you here to continue to make this political like people have done since day 1?

 

You'll have to try to explain how vaccine policy made you homeless.

The vaccines we have against COVID have POVEN to be effective in slowing the spread of COVID. They have also proven to be stupendously safe.

Policy IS political. It's not a matter of whether anyone "makes" it political. Policy IS a political response by definition. Of course, one hopes that those making the policy are making sure they are informed by science, various costs, possibility of effectiveness, etc.

 

Maybe the CDC can help you understand the problem...



They got rid of the parts that say 'to produce immunity' and 'to protect from disease.' Why would they do that?

 

and wth does this mean?

Who else could it be for that she wouldn't be OK with the change?

 

no one cares, we all know what vaccines do, and they seriousness of infection and reduce spread if enough people take it

some anti-vaxxers want us to believe a vaccine is like a condom or it don't work

vaccines train the immune system to fight the virus if\when you do get it, that is what they do

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html

"Page last reviewed: August 17, 2018" <--- under the Trump admin

 

Except these are not vaccines but gene therapy and they are not working as advertised so they redefined the definition of vaccine to fit.

 

Yes. I don't see your confusion on this.

The public has moved toward interpreting "immunity" as something that is absolute.

I don't know any vaccine that we've ever created that does that, so making that part of the very DEFINITION does seem important to change.

Don't you agree?

 

No. The new definition of 'vaccine' allows for the use of products ('preparations') that neither produce immunity nor protect from disease to be called 'vaccines.' Allergies and poisons can both 'stimulate an immune response'...

 

I don't see that as being a justifiable reason to change the definition of what a vaccine is.

In fact, if someone wanted to propose a poison as a vaccine, I think the FDA would know how to handle that.

We DO have many medicines that are very serious poisons.

My point still stands - the misunderstanding of the word "immune" is worth correcting, as there really are a lot of folks who somehow got totally confused about that.

 

I think the underlined demonstrates my argument far more strongly than it demonstrates yours...

 

nope, they are vaccines

 

The COVID vaccines do NOT provide significant protection from getting COVID, certainly not with Delta. That's the issue! And it's one thing for protection
to gradually decrease over time - it's quite another for the protection to only last 6 months! And "protection" in this context is protection from serious disease and death.

 

Vaccines are SUPPOSED to provide significant protection from infection. And the vaccines do NOT reduce the spread. Why do you think that the vaccinated still have to mask?

 

Only according the the redefinition of what a vaccine is. It also failed miserably at stopping the spread.

 

That you cannot perceive what's happening, as has been the case for months at least, demonstrates your complete lack of credibility. That you cannot or will not see that it has been a politically driven official conspiracy theory demonstrates your lack of credibility.

 

No, many people care about the meanings of words. YOU don't, but many of us do.

Many of us are able to see that CDC is changing definitions, with the goal being that gullible individuals will be even more confused than they already are. That is the purpose of disinformation and propaganda. Some of us get it, some of us don't. Life goes on.

 

they do that, but they are not a condom, they only try to train your body to fight the virus if\when you catch it

cause not enough vaccinated yet, just like with herd immunity

 

nope

 

it's still a vaccine