Chicago 2017: Homicide, Gun Control, LEO Gone Fetal And The DOJ

Maybe after the 3rd strike, in places where such things do not lead to life w/o parole.
Or, maybe just for violent felonies.

 

I am happy to include prison reform in the plan to reduce gun violence. It will be expensive but worth it. But to suggest that gun control can NOT also be a part of the solution is ridiculous

 

Again with the personal....how tiring....You poor boy

 

Facts are such hard things for liberals. Fantasy not so much.

 

Let us know when you get some. LOL

 

Many facts, you refuse to admit.
If you had ever been attacked by Armed assailants and successfully defended yourself with a Gun, you might have vastly different opinions on the topic now.

 

It cannot, it's a waste of time and money. Criminal control is the much much better option

 

There is no Parole or Probation or Early release for "Good Behavior" from the Cemetery, nobody ever escapes the confines of a Coffin or cremation urn.
Good marksmanship helps secure such housing.
Take better aim, obtain good ammo, buy better firearms, get concealed carry, where applicable....

 

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6: 24

You don't even have to believe in Christianity to understand the truth of that statement.

America was built upon the foundations of Liberty and Freedom. What's ridiculous is to have ANYONE say that you can attack our foundational principles on one hand AND work to decrease gun violence on the other.

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.

What Vegas giants proposes is to question the American people by infringing on their Fourth Amendment Rights as a prerequisite to exercising a constitutional Right. And that breach of trust is???? And that vegas giants dares mention the word IS ridiculous given his propensity to support tyranny and oppression on the installment plan.

 

Pro gunners believe in the freedom to be dead. Our kids deserve better....the newtown kids deserved better. All they wanted to do is go to school. Our moronic gun laws led to their deaths....and thousands and thousands of others. Enough of the insanity.

 

Newton ,CT. So what would you propose we do that would have prevented that?

 

A thousand things

 

Give us three things you would suggest as legislation that would have stopped that specific crime. You brought it up. What would you have done to stop it?

 

A thousand things. There is no law that can ever stop any specific crime. So by your logic there should be no laws. But then you knew that

 

But a thousand laws could have stopped it

 

I have sometimes started Newbies with a .22 pistol semi or revolver both work and have them hit a target at about 10 ft. Point shooting, first focusing on gun safety, range protocol, grip, keeping both eyes open, the finger safety and a little lesson introduced to me by my Da when I was small called, 'is the gun loaded or unloaded' (it's a sleight of hand thing I do to impress a new shooter with the concept that guns can load themselves), and a few other initial lessons before moving adding lessons on trigger control, sight picture, etc. I have found it an easy introduction so a new shooter isn't overloaded with too many things to consider while getting used to shooting (if they have never shot before). The method worked for me when I was 4 or 5 and seems help a newby with getting over mechanics of recoil or a double action trigger, report (even though small... can be surprising to someone that has never fired a gun). A considerable amount of reasoning goes into the sequencing of lessons, continual emphasis from the go on gun safety, barrel awareness, evaluation of the student's mental state (fear, focus, etc.), ability to follow instructions, comfort level, range awareness, etc. I have found it a relatively fast path to gradually introduce elements of shooting and gradual building of confidence where the newbie isn't focused on hitting bulls eyes at the level they expect from watching Hollywood U. I had noticed that many newbies hit the target pretty well initially in these excersizes just with untrained point shooting but accuracy begin to degrade as more things to consider are added. We focus on how each new element adds to accuracy ... stance, trigger control, and eventually adding putting it together with a sight picture. It's adding this last element where accuracy falls of the most in the initial phases as it seems when newbies begin to focus on getting a good sight picture that other elements, trigger pull, stance, grip, begin to slip in consistency with the other elements.

Again, the BS, meaningless programmed response. I lay the challenge to submit an appropriate training program for the fifth time. If you don't, we can assume you have no idea and are merely tossing BS in the ring to appear that you have something of value when in fact you propose useless vapor.

 

Another BS, non responsive troll answer.

 

Think I'd sooner live in Pyongyang than Chicago. At least I'd live longer!

 

List the 1,000 things or stuff it, because you have nothing but BS to spew.

 

It's been put to you multiple times to define your requirement for training ... you haven't or won't. Put up or we can assume you Rae merely trolling and not interested in debate or discussion.

 

I would rather live in the worst Ghetto of Chicago with the benefits of the Second Amendment, and have a legal Arsenal of firearms, ammo, the freedom to legally obtain such, than live in Pyongyang, North Korea, and not have means to defend myself, or the Bill of Rights etc......

Edited to add:

You are more likely to be killed by Government thugs in North Korea than thugs in Chicago Ghetto.

 

He consistently provides more than you.

 

Well it could be argued that by living in Chicago you certainly need an arsenal of firearms and ammo if you want to survive there; whereas from what I've seen of Pyongyang in recent newscasts, everything looks peaceful, and that you could walk the immaculately clean streets by day or night in perfect safety, and you sure couldn't say that about the filthy litter-strewn streets of any town or city in the US or UK. I get the strong impression you personally are more interested in your precious effing guns than anything else. Me? I don't feel the need for a firearm to prove my masculinity, unlike you evidently.

Conform and that won't happen. I don't want to be on the defensive all the time because of the lawless psychos we have polluting our urban areas, and that to even make eye contact could mean a bullet in the chest.[/QUOTE]

 

You are dodging, deflecting and showing that you really haven't studied this issue. You keep saying a thousand laws would stop it. What are the three you would lobby for to have prevented it? Are you not so sure about gun control all of a sudden?

 

I'm not even asking Vegas giants for the 1000. I'll settle for THREE things that could have been done to have prevented that specific incident at Newtown, CT. involving Adam Lanza. Is Vegas giants not so sure about what he is spewing? For me, Vegas giants complained that people call him anti-gun and other negative names. So, I give him ample opportunity to state his case and he can't. Why?

It appears to me that Vegas giants wants to create two classes of people able to own firearms and keep working to make the prohibited class smaller and smaller until nobody can legally own a firearm except the police and military. If he has any ideas to prove that conclusion wrong, he will post them.