Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    No it's not, its the law, the same thing American children suffer displacement from! Stupid ass parent(s) break the law and sent to prison leaving their children IF LUCKY to family and if not that, the system! And if you would take a moment and read, you would find Foster care and the system is not very pretty! But it clearly seem that's not a priority with the leftist.
     
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    It's not "the law".

    It's a six week old Trump POLICY
     
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    That's bullshit lesh, even so. It's not legal to cross in to the U.S. willy-nilly! This is a problem of the leftist own making! The left encourage illegal entry, supply safe heavens, employ, hide and protect undocumented and then cry because their lack of respect for law has had negative and adverse effects to these stupid people and their unfortunate children..

    Even then! What's your complain? These displaced Children will receive the same Groovy foster care millions of American Children enjoy while their stupid parents pay for their crime! Seems these social programs have satisfied the left for better that a half century so good nuff for ours then good nuff for the undocumented Children, right?
     
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    Trumpkins secretly ( so they think) like this terrorist policy.
     
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    More fake news. A federal judge limits detention of children to 20 days. Since processing for asylum or criminal prosecution of illegal crossing take a lot more than 20 days; families are split up. If they don't want to be split up, they should stay home.
     
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    Unfortunately, under current US law, only Mexicans and Canadians can be turned around at the border. That's why Trump wasn't able to turn back the caravan and we're having to process those guys and others.
     
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    Lol...Try selling that bit of fake news to the evangelicals.
    They're not buying the bullshit.
     
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    It's a sad state of affairs- but the dems/libs will distort anything and everything in order to use it as a political tool. Good people, people of character- simply don't stoop to that.
    They know better, but their immaturity and hate overwhelms their under-developed sense of responsibility.

    The kids in question are only here because parents brought them along on an illegal adventure, a criminal act. However blaming those parents for what they chose to do could not be used to cast blame on Trump, so they blame the logical steps of protective custody for the kids. Perhaps we should lock the kids up with the parents?
    We ignored the laws for far too long- if we had enforced them in the past, this problem wouldn't exist now.

    No. What we should do is book them, check for past history/wants/warrants, advise them they have forfeited any future right to apply for citizenship, that they may not enter the country for any reason for 5 years, that any future illegal intrusion will buy them prison time, then deliver them to the Mexican Border Authorities within 24 hours- Kids and all.
     
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    Whoever is responsible for this occurring is not relevant. I can tell you that a lot of people, especially women are taking it very seriously Whether it is a real problem or not or whether it is the least worse solution or not, it needs to be addressed quickly.
     
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    Try actually looking into it. When a parent is arrested and is sentenced to prison, authorities make sure there is another family member to take care of kids. In the rare and almost non-existent case where there is no one, arrangements are make for foster care. NEVER do authorities just take the kids and lock them into a center for kids like this criminal administration is doing.

    It'a shocking how far out of their way degenerate trump supporters will go to paint an "acceptable" picture of the criminal and fascist methods of this administration. Recently one was defending trump's fawning over KJU.
     
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    Good then. Maybe this is something that will help deter the invasion. If you violate America's sovereignty, you get punished. About time we stood up for ourselves.
     
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    That's called a deterrent. Don't want your family separated? Don't bring your illegal butt over here.
     
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    Several facts that need to be added to this discussion:

    Crossing the US Border is a misdemeanor not a felony
    There is no law that says children must be separated from their parents; it is a policy the Trump Administration chooses to follow.
    The President can't have it both ways choose to separate children and blame the Democrats for his choices.
    If it is the right thing to do take responsibility for it, don't deflect by blaming others for your decisions.
    Separating women and their children is in itself a political tool
     
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    Flat out, right wingers want to use extreme leverage to regress society to Trumpworld.

    They will harm, or destroy, to get their way. And the end justifies the mean ass hatred.
     
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    Well if you are seriously about "Whose" to blame then I think you are missing the real person(s) that bare the greatest responsibility for their situation!

    I left you and obvious clue there ;)

    What needs to be addressed is why are these folk dumb enough to do things illegally and not do like 1o of million of naturalized immigrants before them did. Hell I'm here from great-great grandparent from Italy and Slovenia and they had to come up with BOAT FARE, and know how to speak and read English and pass a civics test!
     
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    I hope Trump DOJ finds YOUR parents cheated to stay here, and they lock you up during your deportation HEARING. tHAT IS THEIR FOCUS TO COME.
     
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    You have it backwards. Drumpf is using the policy of separation as political leverage.

    "President Trump has calculated that he will gain political leverage in congressional negotiations by continuing to enforce a policy he claims to hate — separating immigrant parents from their young children at the southern border, according to White House officials.

    On Friday, Trump suggested he would not change the policy unless Democrats agreed to his other immigration demands, which include funding a border wall, tightening the rules for border enforcement and curbing legal entry. He also is intent on pushing members of his party to vote for a compromise measure that would achieve those long-standing priorities."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2351b5ece99_story.html?utm_term=.68571d52f159
     
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    Paradise with good food and medical care to these people from third world shitholes
     
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    How many criminals were sent to prison and had their kids taken from them over the same period? Illegal immigrants are criminals and have to be treated as such. We can't issue bring your kids get out of jail free cards to them.
     
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    Yes the parents put their children in danger by bringing them under the present circumstances, but the circumstances (policy) is what we are discussing here. The Immigrant parents did not create that policy, the policy is not required by law, It is a choice made by the Administration that some people feel is an over reaction that is not necessary. If you feel strongly about this policy defend it with reasons don't deflect.
     
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    Your alternative is what? Release parents and children? Lock them up together in individual family housing developments?
     
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    A change in that law has to be paert of any dreamer act
     
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    They are not criminals they are detainees. They only become criminals if they are convicted of something. Detainees are processed and given a hearing. Many are sent back, however some are allowed to stay.
    Many of the people that are separated from their children are asking for sanctuary; that is not illegal.
     
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    When they crossed that border illegally they broke a law. What would you do with kids of illegal border crossers caught in the act? What's your solution?
     
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    Buuuulllllshhhiiit! Policy is what they chose to expose THEMSELVES and their children to.. And they, migrants have the ultimate say in what decision they make for themselves and their children.. There is a proper way to enter the U.S. and there is a improper way!

    And that's just as cut and dry as you gonna spin it!
     
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