Chris Wallace calls Trump RNC address 'far too long' and 'surprisingly flat' despite 'some good line

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  1. Libby

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    "The president went through all his accomplishments during his first term -- they are a great number and they are considerable" "Then he went after Joe Biden, and he had some good lines ...," Wallace said, "but I have to say .... his delivery -- and we have seen the president turn on a crowd -- was surprisingly flat and it didn't seem to have the bite that he usually does have in his speeches."

    Wallace added that the speech was "far too long -- 70 minutes exactly" and resembled a State of the Union address.

    But, the host went on to praise Trump's "ambitious plan for a second term," which includes "10 million jobs in ten months, bringing medical supply chains back to the U.S. [and] dealing with preexisting conditions.


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chris-wallace-trump-rnc-speech-too-long

    Thoughts? I haven't seen the speech but I've skimmed the transcript and I generally liked it. If I can find time later, I may watch it also, if I can find 70 minutes ;)

    For those who watched it, what did you think?

    Do you think it will sway undecided voters and Independents?
     
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    Do you really think Trump is going to convince the undecideds to give him 4 more years when the country is a total mess?

    It's going to take a lot more than a 70-minute speech.
     
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    Because he mentioned it late in the speech, I was left wondering about his healthcare plan that was promised over a month ago. It was to come out 2 weeks later. And still, nothing. Now would be the time, wouldn't it? To put forth a detailed plan for healthcare? But no - all he keeps saying is that he will protect pre-x. No explanation of how - just that he will. Unfortunately, his actions (with SCOTUS at present) do not support his words. But I'm sure followers aren't paying attention or don't care.
     
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    The only mess this country is in comes from Covid-19 and Democrat violence. Trump had nothing to do with the first and his assistance has been refused by Democrat mayors and Governors. We were rocking and rolling till Corona. Open for business and reelect Trump and we'll be dancing again.
     
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    I think Democrat leadership complicity in the destruction around the country is having a profound effect on voters.
     
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    .... The management of Covid-19.

    It's when you compare US statistics with those of other Western nations that we realize the Trump disaster.

    I also notice that people are revolting against social injustice and racism in this country.

    And Trump is the very icon of injustice and racism.
     
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    The country is "a total mess" largely because of the riots ---- which have been encouraged and enabled by the left. I think most people are smart enough to see that no matter which side they are on.

    The economy is "a total mess" because of COVID ---- which was not Trump's fault, and I think most people are smart enough to see that also, no matter which side they are on.

    Anyone who has bought into the left's faux "social injustice" idiocy, or who thinks the riots, or COVID, are Trump's fault are either so far left, or so ignorant, that I will agree with you they probably would not be swayed by a political speech. But those aren't the people my original post was curious about ;)

    As far as the economy, Trump is our best hope, hands down, to rebuild it.


    I think you may be right.
     
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    It was a little long but it was a good speech for his base. Wallace is too tied up in his own shorts trying to say something that sounds middle of the road. I don't pay much attention to what he says.
     
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    And do you see it as strong leadership for Trump to say that blue states should just be left to rot? You can blame dems for violence if you wish, but its happening under Trump's watch. So either he is an ineffective leader, or he doesn't care about the violence.
     
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    Trump did a great job managing Covid, it would have been even better had Democrats not been working counter to his efforts. He is still doing a great job even carrying Nancy Pelosi and the MSM on his back while he does it.
     
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    Trump has offered help, and the Dem governors and mayors have rejected it ---- and anyone with even half a clue about current events knows this, and thus would be stupid to try to blame Trump or fall for any leftie narrative that this is somehow Trump's fault.

    If your house is on fire and I offer to send a fire truck, and you reject my offer, you can't blame me if your house burns down.

    Look how Wisconsin's governor dragged his feet accepting help from Trump. And what about Oregon's governor?

    Help was offered by Trump, but political grandstanding rejected or delayed it. There's no way the Democrats can spin that as a positive for them. I would have to think this realization would push undecideds and Independents towards Trump's camp.

    I also don't think it will resonate well with moderates etc, that the Democrats now want $$$$$$$ funding to pay for the damage they allowed and encouraged in the first place. That's like if you light your house on fire, and I offer to send a fire truck, and you reject my offer, and then you want your innocent neighbors to pay to rebuild it.
     
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    Agree. It will take something really serious, like nominating Joe Biden.

    That ended my indecision immediately
     
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    I think it's looking like Fox is beginning to distance themselves from trump. They see he is going to crash and burn and they don't want to be caught up in it. They think we'll all forget their years of insane extreme lying for the Chief Dope.
     
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    I watched the bulk of it and I was watching when TDS Chris Wallace started spewing his garbage. Before he took the mic, I knew exactly what he was going to say. That SOB may as well move on over to CNN.

    If Chris Wallace criticized it, then Trump did a fine job. That's all that needs to be said. :flagus:

    P.S. If that speech didn't sway undecideds and independents, then they weren't undecided or independent to begin with. Biden's speech was amateur hour compared to Trump's. As Obongo liked to say, Biden is JV.
     
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    Well, I for one, and THRILLED beyond belief that Chris Wallace didn't say "got a tingle down my leg".... Folks. We have real progress here.
     
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    I have little over half a clue, so I'll respond. Trump's solution was dispatching more violence onto the streets. The protests have been about police violence, and Trump's solution is to bring more violence to the party. Can you see where this might not be welcome by some governors and mayors?

    An Evers spokesperson told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the administration offered the governor help from the Department of Homeland Security and Evers declined because his administration had already dispatched additional Guard members to Kenosha.

    "The governor informed them that we would be increasing Wisconsin National Guard support in Kenosha and therefore would not need federal assistance in response to protests but would welcome additional federal support and resources for our state's response to COVID-19," Britt Cudaback told the newspaper.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...vernor-should-accept-help-from-trump-to-quell

    Well, unfortunately, things were calming down when Trump's troops appeared on our streets.

    I was really clear when I spoke with the secretary of homeland security last week. I asked them to leave, and that their presence here was not needed.

    The challenge is, their presence here is escalating an already challenging situation. Things were beginning to calm down. Then Trump's troops arrived. And it's simply like pouring gasoline on a fire.
    The harsh reality is, this is about scoring political points with their base. This is about political theater. If they were really interested in problem-solving or in public safety, they would be willing to de-escalate and engage in dialogue.

    Instead, they bring more troops to the streets. They take peaceful protesters off into unmarked cars. And, unfortunately, last weekend, they almost killed a peaceful protester. This is absolutely outrageous. It is a violation of the principles on which this country was founded.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/o...tland-are-escalating-tensions-not-easing-them
     
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    So.... going to stop you right there. Putting armed national guard or federal agents in the way of gratuitous violence and rioting isn't "dispatching more violence". That is utterly laughable. You sound wounded that your hellions can't go out and destroy stuff. The violence stems from the protests you tolerate. There are lots of us who would be fine if those folks you are trying to protect weren't out there burning up neighborhoods, or tearing down history around them. Why do you support them?

    If towns and citizens protect themselves from your team, it's only because they must because your team told the folks who would normally respond and keep the peace not to engage so as to ensure the most destruction possible. Can't you see the evil in that? I mean, should we require any more evidence of deep seated racism in urban democrats, it is exemplified by their willingness to allow the mob to punish minority communities within those cities to be destroyed by the mob. And you're here supporting that?
     
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    The speech was way too long.

    Ivanka spoke way too long.

    When the "Highlight" of the Night was the Epic Pyrotechnic Effect of the Fireworks Spelling Out "Trump 2020" (not once, but twice), you know it was a bad night for the Main Speaker.

    Brian Williams had a great line about when Trump referenced COVID:

    "An Act of Gaslighting Visible From Space".

    Overall, I would grade the speech as a Charitable D -.

    To use a baseball analogy:

    It was a weak infield hit (when he needed to hit it out of the park).

    Trump being Trump.

    Reading a speech from a prompter (that he didn't understand) written at a 1st Grade Level.

    Even in terms of Miller's Usual Pablum-Laden Propaganda, it was bottom of the barrel.

    An Epic FAIL (on multiple levels).
     
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    If you think “rocking” means printing money to pump up the markets then yes, we definitely were. In reality though, manufacturing had already entered a recession and we were spending more than in any other point in history outside of the last recession started during the last Republican President.
     
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    Law and order is not violence. Your entire argument is based on two false premises ---- one, that law and order is "violence", and two, that we have some kind of "police violence" epidemic which justifies the riots. The fact that you (and many other extreme leftists) view law and order as violence is the problem ---- the law and order itself is not the problem. The fact that there are people perpetuating the false narrative that there is a "police violence" problem to begin with, they are also part of the problem. Governors and mayors who pretend law and order is violence are also the problem.

    We live in a civilized society, and law and order is part of a civilized society. I suspect I am not the only moderate Independent who would like to see law and order restored to my beloved country.

    "As long as I am President, I will defend the absolute right of every American citizen to live in security, dignity, and peace...." -Donald Trump
     
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    I would too. I would like to see people given the opportunity to peacefully protest. Those who are rioting and looting are breaking the law - and they should be rounded up and removed from the protest. I am all for law and order. I am all for individual rights.
     
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    And who exactly do you think is going to "round them up" if the mayors and governors are telling the police to stand down, and they're rejecting help from Trump, and leftwing radicals are running around spreading propaganda that law and order is "violence"?
     
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    @Pants You can't square that with your prior comments. I get your bias...but don't insult our intelligence with that hit-and-run followed with a walkback.

    Vote for dementia Joe all you want.
     
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    70 minutes is way too long. I liked what I saw but Trump needs to learn what his narcissistic predecessor never learned - concision is a virtue.
     
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