Christian printer sued after refusing to print same-sex civil union invitations

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c...efusing-to-print-same-sex-civil-union-invitat

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    "Dear Pablo, we cannot do this job, to print this invitation goes against our values, take care and best regards.".......................

    the printer, Publicamos, is openly Christian and family-operated.....................

    Zapata is a volunteer at Iguales, an NGO whose mission statement is "Work … to ensure the full inclusion of sexual diversity in Chilean society....................................

    On Publicamos's behalf, César Mosquera stated that "several times we have turned down jobs that go against our principles[.] … [W]e also, for example, do not work with anything related with pornography."....................

    W]e hope only to win [this case] and that the ruling will be a warning to all those people or institutions which in virtue of their homophobia

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    My initial take-away is given that one of the "offended" volunteers his time working at a homsoexual activist group, and that the printer was openly Christian and family-friendly, it seems like yet another setup by homosexual activists targeting Christians.

    The printer is quite clear that they won't do jobs involving porno either and gay-sex also goes against Christianity. They have a track record of adhering to morals and my hunch is that the homosexual activist deliberately targeted the Christian knwoing full well that they cannot perform work which supports gay-sex.

    I also note that this should "serve as a warning to those with HOMOPHOBIA"

    It appears that the intent is to redefine the term "phobia" from being a deathly fear of something into being defined as disagreeing with deviant sexual lifestyles.

    Do you think this was a setup by the homosexual activist?

    Do you think the Christians in the story have a severe case of "homophobia" ?
     
  2. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I hope Pablo Zapata and his partner win in a big lawsuit against the printer.
     
  3. sec

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    Given the current climate where engaging in gay-sex trumps religion, that may well happen.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 5
     
  4. Pred

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    If cops or the FBI did this to you, it would be called entrapment.
     
  5. sec

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    not really

    they would be doing it for criminal purposes

    In this case, the state has deemed the practice of gay-sex is somehow akin to race when one cannot stop being a different race however once can easily stop having gay-sex.

    Despite that, the state now punishes Christians despite the Constitution
     
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    Isn't this in Chile, not the USA?
     
  7. sec

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    yes and it's a current event and hits right to the statist methods being waged here as well
     
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    Of course you do. And of course they will. And of course they hoped so all along.

    Knowing it's a lost cause.... the printer still doesn't seem to care.

    Gotta respect that.
     
  9. Think for myself

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    Were these invitation to watch them have "gay-sex" or something?

    Of course, there is nothing in the Bible about not supporting same sex civil unions. I fear that is simply using Jesus to support bigotry and hatred, the opposite of what the Christ myth teaches.
     
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    Can one really stop having sex on a whim?

    Why would they want to?

    Sex is natural. We all are hardwired to satisfy our sexual urges. Why should folks, assuming it is consenting adults, stop simply because sex offends those who claim to believe in Jesus or some god? Seems like fairly silly reasoning.
     
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    big lawsuit? If anything they should pay for the priting of the invitations.
     
  12. Professor Peabody

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    They can go bankrupt on the judgement and start over later.
     
  13. sec

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    it's a shame that they would need to do that

    To add to the insanity, Canada will now allow jihadi refugee males if they simply claim to be gay. There is no test to confirm that given that it's just a sexual act so do you think the word isn't out on how to enter Canada?
     
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    Aren't the millennials are the first generation to go through the 'transformed' public education under the Department of Education?
     
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    Well to be fair one can stop practicing Christianity. Christianity is a choice.
     
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    Good for Canada, they can have 'em.
     
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    He should just print the documents and make errors in the printing. And verbally harass them while they're in his shop. Call them idiots, fools, etc. Make the experience miserable for them. There's nothing illegal about calling someone an idiot. Maybe the pests will go away.
     
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    We are definitely not as free as we were in the 60's and 70's when I was growing up. Too many speech codes today. Liberals are the book burners of the 21st century.
     
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    Dissent is always taboo. That is the nature of dissent. Society is warfare between different classes with different interests. Society is driven forward by this conflict.

    Rather than trying to suppress this conflict, we should participate in it and educate ourselves. This is what Marxism calls dialectics.
     
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    If there are anti discrimination laws in Chile, then I fully support the suit and hope this jack wagon loses.
     
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    In the U.S., the left has established politically correct speech codes over the last 30 years, which forbid some thoughts and words. The right has fought these restrictions, but they haven't been very effective. No where are these codes more prevalent than at our colleges and universities where voicing a dissenting opinion can get you kicked out of school.
     
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    Romans fed Christians to the lions and they didn't give up their faith. Christians are being beheaded for their faith in the Middle East. A lawsuit by homofascists won't deter people of good will and strong faith. Normal people will prevail over the freaks and perverts in the end.
     
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    When it comes to Christianity and Homosexuality, we can only be certain that one of these is, in fact, a choice, and that is Christianity. When gays say that homosexuality is not a choice I'm inclined to believe them as every major society in history has produced them. The same cannot be said about Christianity which is clearly transmitted via indoctrination.

    Christianity is a choice and a lifestyle and it is chosen for the individual making the choice, not anyone else. If you choose to be Christian and condemn homosexuality, that's fine. You're not making that choice for anyone else, however, and having a billion like minded people behind you doesn't increase the individual value of your choice; you're still just one person.

    Even if we could determine that homosexuality is a a choice, why is the onus on them to change?
     
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    They should have told them that the printer is broken and we can't meet the deadline. Sorry
     
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    I agree with everything you said.... until the freaks and perverts thing.

    But yes, people of strong faith will not be moved.
    We see it time and again.

    I haven't heard a single report of a baker, photographer, florist...ever saying "ok fine, judge... I'll do it".
     

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