Christians believe in child marriage

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/marriage_age.html

    Can you explain the contradiction...see 2nd last paragraph.....
    "So now we have a contradiction between two directives of the Quran, one that presupposes a marriageable age for girls and the other which places no limits on the age a girl can get married!"
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Wow,
    so much effort, so much passion.
    The biggest problem we are facing is that our world (the world we know of) and the world of others is not black and white only. To state the Islam is evil and Christianity good is as silly as to believe in a God itself (sorry guys, no offence).
    Looking deeper into this issue we will find plenty of wrongdoings in both religions. There is only one solution, a strong secularism with plenty of protection for children (I wouldn't mind harsher penalties if found guilty).
    The real issue is our (mainly male) lustre for those forbidden things, which are burried deep in many of us, even priests....
    Cheerio
     
  3. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are dealing with pseudo-intellectuals. Simplistic shallow views are what makes them feel smart. One chases articles from a newspaper :roflol: and the other provides crap from a clearly biased website aimed at attacking its target :bored:. Both are one dimensional lazy thinkers.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Why dont you post something constructive for a change, instead of criticising sources which dont support your point of view. Go ahead, post some intelligent supporting your point of view...
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Constructive???....LMAO magoo, now that is self projection in its full definition. You tag along populist views monotonously. Go and do some research or listen to reason rather than pulling some simple article from a newspaper article to build your opinion. I can't remember you providing anything of substance on this forum in the years I've been on here. I'm being bloody honest now. :smile:
     
  6. billy the kid

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    Just the response I expected...criticism but no content...
    Is Pauline Hanson a racist...yawn yawn...
    Where now for indigenous youth...yawn yawn...
    The slowing Real estate market...yawn yawn...
    Youre as interesting as a weekold bowl of cornflakes...
     
  7. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr_Truth made a simple statement that took me a while to ponder on but then was explained by LRL. Historical circumstances for child marriage were cultural and not religious. I now have an understanding for the basis for promising a young girl. Pedophilia is a psychological issue. Priest diddly daddling with young boys is child molestation and child abuse.

    Some of these numbskulls probably didn't even read LRL's post. They want to feel smart by the sensational populist and lazy one dimensional view of the world. To me that demonstrates serious intellectual incapacity and I ain't joking.
     
  8. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Hang on...isnt the title of this thread, started by YOU.."Christians believe in child marriage"
    Now youre saying....."Historical circumstances for child marriage were cultural and not religious...."
    Do you even know what youre talking about....pft...
     
  9. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your problem with those threads is an indication that the complexity of discussion was beyond you. You stick with your shallow Murdoch cheap shot populist articles....

    Go and read those threads you might learn something in depth because I certainly did from the invaluable contribution of many posters. These sights aren't just about venting your spleen but LEARNING magoo, something you seem incapable of doing.
     
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    See post 38
     
  11. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See, you find it extremely hard to connect dots(gee I love they saying)! You aren't good at context!
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    I repeat..do you know what youre talking about...
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just go and create a thread that provokes thinking and learning and be at least a little contrarian for goodness sake. Your responses are just childish nonsense that stems from something weird, something that i can't put my finger on. There are enough posters on here with intellect that provoke thought and provide revelation. I certainly don't get that from a handful of people who post in the Australian forum. You being one for sure.
     
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    More criticism but no answer...
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol: oh my goooodnessss! Go and read your own posts. You are wasting my time and there more important intellectual posts on here that I'd like to read and respond to.
     
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    OK so you dont want to debate your own contradiction...ok Im done...
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go and play the silly little games with someone else magoo. There is nothing of value that you have for me as someone wanting to piece together issues. I certainly won't be losing any sleep...lol!
     
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    Yes you are…
    So children are being demonised by shining light on the abuse??? As in the light of your low life supporters you now are resorting to attempt to divert your perverted idealistic view of the world onto others.
    I do believe a projection of your own beliefs.
    I am sorry but I must ask what interpretation of Islam are you using to defend child marriage??? What version of interpretation are you claiming to be fact???

    I ask such due to one major flaw all these attacks on theological beliefs fail to understand. religion’s do not recognise the legal definitions of marriage. That is to say marriage is determine only by certain criteria are meet in accordance with that particular religious belief.
    If you choose to ignore that understanding to marginalise child abuse into something you can defend in your understanding then you need to incorporate the truth (or fact as it stands not as you see it) into the understanding.

    True Christianity has in the past preached child marriage. In other words has preached instructional child abuse. However, Times have changed and Christianity has changed its preaching. You can claim that since they did in the past they do now, however, that is your mistake in fact.

    This thread is simply an escalation of an attempt to justify the racist, bigoted ideals of people who wish to pretend they stand against a very serious issue while trying to justify the same issue elsewhere…

    This thread and those who wish to pretend they are supporting decent debate on a subject that needs NO debate is simply demonstrating the very point made about them. That is they are low life grubs who deserve NO consideration of thought. I also note those very grubs rallying to the defence of these people trying to project their beliefs as facts… Again The grubs align…
     
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    Dispute the facts here you MORON. "Child bride 13 dies of internal injuries". Now you will say the Daily mail is not a good enough reference for you. YOU - someone who is defending child sexual abuse and paedophilia.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-injuries-days-arranged-marriage-Yemen.html

    - - - Updated - - -

    That clown will always stick its creepy head in to bite your ankles, and offer nothing else.
     
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    I'm done even communicating with a disgusting human being like you. Convince your own family and friend that child sexual abuse under Islam is OK, because you will never convince me.
     
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    I am sorry, What perversion of the truth do you believe I have made???

    Let us look at your record in this area, First you claim child marriage is NOT child abuse... AND I QUOTE
    I am sorry if you believe comments such as these are honesty, I do believe the perversion is on YOUR part.

    Now you want to try and say the Islam does not preach Child marriage, is that because you suddenly realise the picture you have made of yourself is that of a person excusing child abuse??? Well if you don't that is exactly what you are doing.

    The fact you have been asked to clarify you stance on child abuse and all you have done is twist and turn in some effort to justify your comments. I did not ask you to justify Islam or Christianity in such sense but Child abuse. YOU have continued to claim all sorts of justification due to prejudice and now claim lies. It is no US with the issue on this subject but YOU.

    You say "Defending the truth and the innocent does not make us guilty of anything except being honest". I point out your ignorance is clear on such issues and you continue to claim to fact. The truth is far from your understanding and I feel will always be. So if you wish to be honest with yourself and the world, perhaps you should start here by admitting your opposition to others on this subject is simply to oppose the people NOT provide the facts or defend the facts.

    As I have pointed out, YOU are a grub and you should realise the support of other Grubs is a clear indicator of your stance on child abuse. I make no blanket claim of Islam OR Christianity as you low lives continue to defend and justify. I make the claim of YOU...

    I point one thing out (already stated) this is no longer about religion, it is about the excusing of child abuse. You continue to defend such grubby activity...
     
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    Expect nothing else from a Troll
     
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    CHILD ABUSE UNDER ISLAM, CHRISTIANITY, ATHEISM, SATANISM OR ANY OTHER ISM IS WRONG, IMMORAL, PERVERTED AND ILLEGAL . THAT HAS NEVER BEEN THE ISSUE WITH ME IT IS JUST THAT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

    You never disputed ONE LINE of MY ANALYSIS of that BIASED RUBBISH you referenced. RUBBISH I PROVED WRONG. DON'T AGREE, THEN DEBATE THAT, to not debate my opinion, but rather turn your disgusting venom on me, accusing me of supporting paedophillia is the most absolutely cowardly act of a disgusting maggot. CD any further communication with filth like you is terminated, you are scum. And so so for your ridiculous mates. I am here to learn and debate, not lower myself to communicate in any way with the likes of you, there is nothing constructive in your soul, you are evil.
     
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    Talk about information going over heads. Thes 2 posters are like blind piranhas with no teeth :roflol:

    For those with half a brain and an understanding of simple complexities it is quite clear that Islam is not the only religion that practice child marriage. It is not specific to one culture but all even today. It is rampant in mostly poor Christian countries. Again the USA have laws that allow marriage at the age of 12 as well.

    Again, is it right? No.....it is clearly not a practice that we agree with.

    Australia has its issues with child sexual abuse, many of which are swept under the carpet by many families for varying reasons. It is concerning to learn that many high profile celebrities are perpetrators. The seemingly squeaky clean ones....Trust British Paints? Sure can but you can't trust Rolf. Australia had dealt with 200,000 cases of child abuse last year....now that's concerning isn't it.
     
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    Isn't it funny that here the poster does attempt to say that child abuse is NOT acceptable, YET continues to justify their stance by claiming other religious preachings... Sorry, opposing simply to oppose those hated by this poster.


    Yeah, Yeah, your offended, we get it just as your attempt to offend others previously on the very same issue. Should we recap??? No I do believe the readers will make their decision. So please do not communicate with any of us, I do beleive the support your mate gives you below is clear demonstration of the BS you and he are trying to get past the world.

    How does this clown consider this justifies turning a blind eye to Child abuse??? Just what sort of scumbag would do so in attempt to score political points??? Apparently these two…

    Funny how Child abuse suddenly is a real issue you want to demonise while you justify institutional child abuse.

    THE Hypocrisy to suggest to excuse child abuse, while claiming to demonise child abuse… The world can see by the support given and HOW it is given just were the chips lay.
    And just one thing between the lot of you grubs, I challenge the grubs here on the forum to point to exactly where or quote where I claimed Islam is all about child abuse. Talk about logical fallacies OR on more basic terms for the ignorant STRAWMAN…
     
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