Citizen's United Vs The Intent of the Formation of the United States

So I guess the Prince in any form of his various "de facto US citizen bodies" man not through them donate any money to any pact that then donates to a candidate. After all, rules are rules. Does Prince Talal have a green card? No? Then Apple, News Corp, Disney, Citibank, Pepsi and so on are out of luck this election cycle.

 

So *******s are OK with campaign finance laws exempting Unions, and Media companies, but now get all upset that other groupings of people have a say.

And then give us a retarded interpretation of the DOI to support their "me, but not you" hypocrisy.

Liberals are second rate Americans. And its a distant second.

 

This liberal is against anyone but individuals donating to campaigns- Unions, corporations, and of course shell corporations set up just to mask campaign contributions.

The OP interpretation of just about everything is just bizarre in my eyes.

 

I'm not sure how liberals feel about allowing foreigners to affect our internal governance. I'm a moderate/middle guy. I know how I feel about foreigners affecting our elections. Especially foreigners who have aided and given comfort to the enemy in time of war. Prince Talal was instrumental in a fundraiser that gave aid and comfort to families of suicide bombers in Al Qaida.

And he is now a US citizen per "Citizen's United"...circumventing the INS process, the Oath and Obligations of Naturalization and going directly to affecting internal affairs via the electoral process with no sworn allegiance whatsoever.

No, I don't know how liberals feel about that. But I sure know how I feel about that as a bronc-busting, apple pie eating, grandma lovin' red-blooded born and bred American patriot. My famly has been in the US since long before the Declaration of Independence. They were among the very first English colonists here. Members of my family have served in every single war since the beginning of this nation and before. I even have native American blood. And not one drop of my blood from my founding fathers down to my native brothers approves of the highly treasonous "Citizen's United". It is akin to inviting King George to weigh in on the Constitution. Or the KKK to weigh in on the Emancipation Proclamation. Or the Germans to weigh in on American strategy per WWI and WWII. Or the North Koreans or North Vietnamese to hold sway in American internal policy during those conflicts, or Al Qaida to weigh in on our current...oh...wait a minute. That's what Citizen's United has done...

 

I would say that there is at least some consistency in the merit of your position.

What many Conservatives find so patently absurd is the majority liberal positions regarding such as municipal employee unions, such as what we recently saw in WI, where folks are required by law to be union members, union dues are then deducted by the state and paid to the union, just like a collected tax is paid to gubmit, and that the union is not only exempt from campaign finance restrictions, but then donates over 85% of the money to Democrats.

Conservatives look at that, and then see the unbelievably ignorant argument put forward in the OP.

I believe the only Constitutionally consistent position would either be that everyone and everything can donate, or no one can. In the latter position, one would qualify as a candidate by gaining some set numerical support, and then be given money by the applicable government body to fund a campaign. That amount could vary by state, county, etc.

 

No, the Constitutionally correct position would be to only include US citizens in the internal governance of the US via the electoral process...including who can and who can't contribute.

There is no circumstance provided in the Constitution or elsewhere protecting the "right" of foreigners to interfere with or influence our electoral process: the bedrock of our democracy. In fact there are specific prohibitions from them doing so.

SCOTUS ordaining Prince Talal as a de facto citizen of the US goes behind INS rules and is in violation of Law. Irregardless of the fact that a Prince may never be a citizen as long as he wears a crown, or that in Prince in Talal's case, he gave aid and comfort to Al Qaida: a sworn enemy of the US who we were at war with at the time that aid and comfort was given.