Civil War if Hillary Clinton is President?

Why do blacks not support Republicans?


(and see if you can answer that WITHOUT insulting blacks. )

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A police officer and two civilians were killed and five police officers and four civilians were injured....

by a white pro-lifer, named Robert Dear.

 

I will, and not insult Republicans. Black voters support Democrats, so we're told by the media.

 

I don't know about evenly divided, but both ideologies have their nuts. It seems to me there are far more right wing nuts than left wing nuts. But perhaps the right wing nuts are just more noisy these days.

 

Nope life will go on as always.

 

It's always bothered me, that Black voted 95% for Obama, yet were being told Whites are racist, every time one mentions a dislike for Obama policy.

I don't know a President that has not been challenged to some degree, on every policy pursued. Frankly I don't know one that has passed anything like the ACA, when no opposition (House R, in this case) and adding thousands of pages after passed, much less faced challenges, other than Amendments to the Constitution. When gone, and if Trump, no president by far will have as many "Executive Orders" voided, not including what we all know is coming after the election, until inauguration. Some of which "pardoning" can't be voided.

Mr. Obama is not burned out, has plenty of time to cause problems and regardless of any election outcome, has plans to disrupt all changes, of his policy. The only difference, we will be paying for his entertainment and security for decades. Golfing in South America, fine, 50 Security people and of course public transportation out of the question, while Michelle is off shopping in Spain.





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No, you're not told that. You just pretend you are.

That's a weasel-tactic that many righties rely on whenever people point out how their opposition to Obama makes no sense. Rather than defend their indefensible "If Obama tries it, we'll sabotage it, no matter how badly it screws the country!" policy, the righties evade by auto-whining that everyone is calling them a racist.

 

That was the peoples choice, but at least they had a choice...unlike the Democrats.

 

REVISIONISM ALERT:

Nazism was NOT a socialist phenomenon. The names that totalitarian parties of left and right give themselves are aimed at power, not accurate self-description. The 1990s Russian fascist party of Vladimir Zhirinovsky, for example, called itself the Liberal Democratic Party, though it was neither liberal nor democratic.
The Nazi party was originally called the German Workers Party, and it adopted the the word "Socialist" to attract working class support through the idea of granting social welfare to Aryan Germans as a vote catcher, but the primary inspiration of its founder, Anton Drexler, was German nationalism, while later founding influences added virulent anti-semitism to the mix.
Socialism is founded on the idea of human equality, but Nazism is founded on the exact opposite notion, radical (and racialized) human inequality, and in fact Hitler said many times that he believed he had been put on earth to destroy the idea of human equality. He regularly associated international socialism with Jewish conspiracy, and his financial support came from traditional right wing sources - big banks and industry.
Indeed, the two Nazi electoral campaigns of 1933 were funded mainly by the industrialists of the Ruhr valley, who opened their pockets to the Nazis only after Hermann Goering personally assured them in a series of meetings that there was NOTHING socialist about National Socialism. Had there been, they would never have opened their wallets and the world might have been saved a catastrophe.

Prescott Bush and many other rightists on the international stage admired Hitler precisely because they saw him as the man to smash socialism and the left. And that he most certainly did in Germany: his first action after the Enabling Act, giving dictatorial powers, was passed in 1933 was to ban trade unions.
Over the course of his regime, it's estimated that around 2 million socialists, trade unionists, communists and other left-wingers were murdered by Hitler's regime, most of them in the death camps. Many of the victims had warned of the evils of fascism and been ignored by appeasement in Europe and North America, with much of the appeasement orchestrated by the political right.

Winston Churchill was almost totally isolated in the British Conservative party during most of the 1930s, precisely because he saw Hitler as a threat rather than an anti-communist strongman; at one point the isolation was so great that he was largely having to get his views out in the UK via the "Daily Worker", the British Communist Party daily paper!

Now the Anglo-American right tries to rewrite history and pretend that they were not complicit in this appeasement, or even that the Nazism they once collaborated with so much was really a form of "socialism". It wasn't, not in any degree. If Hitler had been a socialist, he would never, ever have been bankrolled, appeased and admired by centres of conservative power in the way that he was. It is an insult to those 2 million victims of Nazism to pretend that there was anything socialist about the regime that killed them, just as it would be an insult to claim that Mao's government was conservative when it claimed to be safeguarding the revolution's values through the mass slaughter of the Cultural Revolution.
To give Hitler's real views on socialism - whether Marxist or in its reformist European social democratic type - here's the great historian of the movement and biographer of Hitler, Alan Bullock, from his magisterial and definitive book on the subject:

"While Hitler's attitude towards liberalism was one of contempt, towards Marxism he showed an implacable hostility… Ignoring the profound differences between Communism and Social Democracy in practice and the bitter hostility between the rival working class parties, he saw in their common ideology the embodiment of all that he detested -- mass democracy and a leveling egalitarianism as opposed to the authoritarian state and the rule of an elite; equality and friendship among peoples as opposed to racial inequality and the domination of the strong; class solidarity versus national unity; internationalism versus nationalism".
Alan Bullock, "Hitler: A Study in Tyranny", New York: HarperCollins, 1971.

In every one of these actions and particulars, Hitler and his regime were as virulently anti-socialist as it's possible to be.

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And I named well over SIXTY FIVE extremely violent right wing terror ATTACKS, and I stopped counting after 2014 or it would be almost one hundred.
Maybe you could actually READ what's being posted before spouting your weak and easily debunked Murdoch-boner revisionism.
Oh wait, you're IMMUNE to facts.

 

It was much like we have today. Government control over business. picking winners and losers. Crony capitalism going by the name of fascism

I saw 2 mentioned and neither had any attack. Trying to claim the one guy was a right winger because he praised the people who shoot abortion Drs is desperation at best.
Im speaking of conservatives protesting, like the tea Party did. They dont go around breaking things like BLM or occupy wall st. They even clean up after themselves.

Hitler sounds much like Obama or most of our leaders today

This is where we are now and why people are going for Trump and why BREXIT passed. People are tired of being told what to do by these elites.

 

She'll give the bums, bustouts, and parasites lots of free stuff. Or, she'll give 'em lots of easy government or government-funded jobs with lots of bennies and good retirement. That'll keep them on quiet and sitting on their comfortable, fat asses. Typical Democrat Party methodology since the time of Frankie Roosevelt. This fun social carnival will last until the Russians and the Chinese remove us as a major world power in 10 - 20 years.

 

Right Wing Terror Attacks:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/jeffery-haas/right-wing-terror-attacks/10153071332960810

You don't know what Nazism is, and you refuse to acknowledge that the right are more of a threat to this country than ANY islamist terror outfit.

 

A really major thing to remember about Nazis is that they weren't left OR right wing but more "do what we say or we'll kill you and we'll probably kill you anyway" wing. That's a really convincing ideology, which is why lots of terrorists follow it,.

 

No civil war, but there is no fixing the path we are heading down. This country will be divided for the rest of the nations future.

 

It's definitely possible for at least some regional violence. Probably not right once she gets elected, but more likely down the road once the Supreme Court starts making decisions from a radical left ideology. I've been prepping recently due to the tensions throughout the country, the recent killings of police officers, the chance of the economy taking a dive, and now I'm hearing tensions are rising in China due to South China See dispute. The world is in a bad place, and if Hillary wins it will be a the final nail in the coffin for this once great Republic. Theres a ton of different things that could happen to the lead up to 2017. I seriously doubt we will be better off in 2018, by then I can see a full scale revolution occurring.

 

Everyone from Churchill to William L. Schirer disagree with you but that's okay.

 

This is a good poll. I went with......

... but I have to admit that I am worried.

This is one of the reasons why I resurrected a Zombie poll that had already fallen down to page 41 of the polls.......

I bet you can guess which one I mean can't you?

The last post.... until this morning.... was back on March 3 of 2015.

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That is actually an excellent point!

 

Only retards think there's going to be a civil war, after this election.
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civil war ensues after if Hillary gets a mandate, amnesty is pushed through, stacks the supreme court with radicals, currency collapses (great depression 2.0) and the 2nd amendment is re-visioned. Law enforcement will collapse and there will be no "law and order" to keep the lid on the garbage can. society will crumble and there will be more than enough hatred and blame to go around.

 

It would only lead to violence in states where the governor is derp and doesn't call out the National Guard.(See Missouri)
It would lead to violence if/when she tries for a gun grab.
I'll gather up what I have and bail;It's that bad.
I know a place.It's not Canuckistania,or is it?

 

history has shown that running away from communism doesnt work. There is no live and let live with communism. you either crush it or it continues to grow like a cancer. Vietnam showed us that and the majority of people still have not learned.

 

It depends on how much welfare she pumps out to the ghettos. You want it simple, there it is. Democrats are good at that. They keep the worthless parts of society quiet by giving them everything they need for free. They have done this since the 1960s. Read the history.

 

If Hillary wins:

-Rednecks will be really pissed off. Not as pissed off as when Obama was president but still super, super pissed off. Rednecks do not like women in authority positions.

-The GOP will fracture and be very chaotic for the next 4 years. Hillary's election would mean that the GOP has to structurally change (become more liberal). That is going to be very, very ugly.

-The international scene will get even more crazy just as it did under Obama. Putin will invade more countries. China might invade some. Japan will militarize likely. Hard cold fact is most the world does not respect a woman or black leader.


If Trump wins:

-Every day will be "Evil White People Day" and general mass chaos will reign with race relations which already are very bad under Obama.

-Race which has already become a focal point for US politics will merely become a more cemented pillar of America. I think this is good. The idea that we weren't a racialist country like every other country was and always has been BS.

-International scene will become more stable. Right or wrong, world leaders respect a white male and fear him more than a black male or a woman and will not cross him as readily.

 

You are making me think that I should copy and paste this comment of yours over into another discussion where it will be relevant.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=381946&page=7&p=1066456447&posted=1#post1066456447
Thread: Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

....If... .the Donald Trump Presidency leads to a significant increase in activity along the line of
Black Lives Matter or Occupy Washington...... .except far far far worse.......
then Canadian churches should get prepared to reach out to the cities that
are hardest hit.

I completely agree with Penrod's reply!

 

I completely agree with you that if The Donald is elected President the "International scene will become more stable."

Also yes...... the Black Lives Matter Movement will probably become even more intense.

And yes... if Hillary is elected the "international scene will get more crazy"......... I think your analysis is excellent!

 

War is hell, and anyone that wishes it is a fool. We could elect Sarah Palin herself and war still wouldn't be the answer.