Climate Change Could Happen Slower for the Next Decade, Study Says

Meh, cutting and pasting lib outlets in big letters is not discussing anything.

 

LOL...

You can't be serious!

 

Isn't this an indication that the hockey stick is broken?

For the hockey stick not to be broken, then our recent high global temperatures need to be hotter than all of the last 11,300 years, right? Not just "most" of it...

 

Nope.

MOD EDIT>>>FLAME BAIT<<<. Climate scientists have known for a long time (and said so) that the Earth may have been a bit warmer at times during the Holocene Thermal Maximum, which extended from 5000 years ago to 9000 years ago. After that, slight orbital changes started a long cooling trend over the last 5000 years that only ended in the last century or so when mankind's carbon emissions started to raise temperatures. In just a century, the Earth has warmed by about the amount as it had cooled over that entire previous 5000 years.

The original 'hockey stick graph' only covered the last one thousand years and is not connected to the research results I just cited in the post you're responding to. Later temperature reconstructions go back another thousand years and show the same results.


The original northern hemisphere hockey stick graph of Mann, Bradley & Hughes 1999, smoothed curve shown in blue with its uncertainty range in light blue, overlaid with green dots showing the 30-year global average of the PAGES 2k Consortium 2013 reconstruction. The red curve shows measured global mean temperature, according to HadCRUT4 data from 1850 to 2013.

 

Citing means that I explain a position and use the article to support my position.

You spam with copy paste and links.

There is a difference.

 

That is because it started warming again in 76.

30 years of cooling

 

Perhaps this will help.

5 consecutive decades of warming.

 

Crap ! I gotta roll up my pant legs again !

 

Too bad science is such a mystery to you.

 

Here you go, here is a tree ring proxy from Tibetan trees without grafting together two separate types of measurements and not hiding the inconvenient cooling and that actually corresponds to measured readings.

 

Oh goodie, a meaningless chart that only goes to the turn of the century taken from a denier blog.

Here's the actual temperature record, as you've seen a thousand times.

Trying to deny reality is just silly.

 

Well, what do you know, a graph that corresponds with the one I posted. So, what is your point?

 

I have a difficult time figuring his points out other than to be adversarial.

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Have an actual temperature record going back to 500 BC by chance?

 

LOLOL.....no they don't "correspond", not even close.

Your graph is supposedly of some Tibetan tree ring proxie data, which is pretty meaningless as an indicator of global temperature trends because Tibet is at an extremely high elevation compared to the rest of the Earth's surface.

The graph I posted depicts the entire instrumental record of world temperatures going back to 1880.

The "point" very obviously is that the world is rapidly warming no matter what meaningless crap you scrape off of some denier cult blog.

 

Maybe this would work for you...


Green dots show the 30-year average of the new PAGES 2k reconstruction. The red curve shows the global mean temperature, according HadCRUT4 data from 1850 onwards. In blue is the original hockey stick of Mann, Bradley and Hughes (1999 ) with its uncertainty range (light blue). Graph by Klaus Bitterman.

78 researchers from 24 countries, together with many other colleagues, worked for seven years in the PAGES 2k project on the new climate reconstruction. “2k” stands for the last 2000 years, while PAGES stands for the Past Global Changes program launched in 1991. Recently, their new study was published in Nature Geoscience. It is based on 511 climate archives from around the world, from sediments, ice cores, tree rings, corals, stalagmites, pollen or historical documents and measurements. All data are freely available

 

Still not familiar with an X axis yet? LOL It corresponds very well indeed and I guess scientific studies like Liu Y, et. al. are just not good enough for you because it shows the current temps better where the Briffa rings don't is a real problem for you. Not sure how a scientific study is not better than your links to liberal outlets.

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Yep, you don't even know the difference between actual temperature readings and proxy reconstructions.

 

No.

Reconstructions are no measured temperatures.

 

If he does, he doesn't care. It's not in his scriptures to read.

I wonder if he realizes that something like 80% of the non ice core proxies used to make the hockey stick reconstruction are under water, which does not show atmospheric temperatures.

 

Uh-huh...riiiiight, the scientists are all idiots but you're the smart one who knows more than they do.

The Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in unskilled individuals suffering from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude."

 

LOL, you dismiss scientific papers in favor of liberal outlets. Project much?