Confederate Flag Down, but South Carolina Blacks See Bigger Fights

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Yes, now you have got it. Exploitation of the slave labor = money. Just like exploitation of illegal immigrants=money today.
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately for the left, Conservatives don't base their judgement on the color of one's skin. We base it on the value of one's character. Black Conservatives more than fit in with the Conservative party.

    Judging by your post alone, you're a racist. It's sad that you fail to see that as you point your finger elsewhere.
     
  3. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Neither one was Mother Theresa. Slavery was an established institution long before the South seceded so people's attitudes were much different about it than today. These days it sounds really repugnant to me as does the exploitation of illegal immigrants. But just like Lincoln and Davis accepted slavery back then many people today just accept the abuse of illegal aliens.
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good Lord. You could have the skin slapped off your face with a Right stick and you'd still call it Left.
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have I missed the thousands in protests and in crowds and on television with signs reading "White Lives Matter?"
     
  6. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I get how this works for Republcians:

    • To portray the GOP as being minority-friendly, Lincoln was the one who freed the slaves.
    • To protect the Dems as being hypocrites, Lincoln was a white supremacist.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Read the article.

    They lived under Jim Crow AFTER the war ended UNDER the United States flag.

    Wrong and wrong, Lincoln NEVER even suggested he would do so before the war.

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    You're equating the Nazi's with the Confederacy? Can you show me where the Confederacy had a policy to send all the Africans to concentration camps for extermination and mass murder?
     
  8. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    I hate to break it to you but the US government recognizes Confederate veterans the same as any other American vet. I do not believe the government views Nazi soldiers the same.

    So if someone wants to fly a confederate flag to honor the vets then so be it. I personally have no problem with removing the SC flag and putting it in a museum though.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can't say that, it's racist now and if you do so you must apologize.

    O'Malley apologizes for saying 'all lives matter' at liberal conference

    Phoenix (CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley apologized on Saturday for saying "All lives matter" while discussing police violence against African-Americans with liberal demonstrators.

    Several dozen demonstrators interrupted the former Maryland governor while he was speaking here at the Netroots Nation conference, a gathering of liberal activists, demanding that he address criminal justice and police brutality. When they shouted, "Black lives matter!" a rallying cry of protests that broke out after several black Americans were killed at the hands of police in recent months, O'Malley responded: "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter."

    The demonstrators, who were mostly black, responded by booing him and shouting him down.

    RELATED: Demonstrators take over Democratic presidential candidate forum

    Later that day, O'Malley apologized for using the phrase in that context if it was perceived that he was minimizing the importance of blacks killed by police......

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/martin-omalley-all-lives-matter/index.html

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    Do they fly the United States flag over memorials to the Yankee fallen?
     
  10. CJtheModerate

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    If it weren't for northerners, they would still be living under Jim Crow.

    Which just goes to show how paranoid the south was.
     
  11. doombug

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    I would hope so.
     
  12. doombug

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    Well give us your take on Lincoln then.
     
  13. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BTW. did you ever hear LBJ's reason for welfare?

    Here's this too. http://patdollard.com/2014/02/flash...*)s-voting-democratic-for-the-next-200-years/

    I don't know if you knew this or not (I would hope you didn't), but you're just a pawn, as are any other black democrats.
     
  14. Thirty6BelowZero

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    The fact that you see his statements as racist are an even bigger issue.

    I'd love to see how well you'd make it up north in the free, "nonracist" states in 1865 if you think what BluesGuy says is racist.
     
  15. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Well, he does take their side when a black male, guilty of a crime, gets fatal consequences brought upon him. I guess that's the best he can do though since he's lied to them for 7 years.
     
  16. f_socialism

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    According the the liberals on this forum, the rich are still getting richer and the poor poorer at an increasing rate. And we all know that the debt has already increased more under Obama than it did under Bush.

    Yet you seem to criticize Bush while not even mentioning Obama. Why the inconsistency?
     
  17. Thirty6BelowZero

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    In the case that both are just pieces of cloth that scare the skinny jeans off of liberals, yes, you're correct. Nobody else is afraid of a flag. Do you also shart yourself when you see an ISIS flag? Of course not, because you've been demanded to think that they're our friends and if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us.

    Talk about some (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up morale. You and your ilk should focus more on an actual threat and stop being so damn over emotional.
     
  18. Thirty6BelowZero

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    What do you care? You'd rather see blacks killed or imprisoned for wanting equal pay than to see them work fields and be clothed and fed.
     
  19. Thirty6BelowZero

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    And you know it'd resemble Jim Crow laws because, what, you have a time machine and you were able to alter things to see how it'd have turned out? You have absolutely no proof of that ridiculous claim.

    I didn't ask if Germany was part of the United States.
     
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    Prison is preferable to slavery.

    The south was able to establish Jim Crow even with the federal government breathing down their neck. If the confederacy won its independence, they wouldn't even have to worry about the federal government.
     
  21. Thirty6BelowZero

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    I don't think you do get it, buckaroo.

    Lincoln saw blacks as an inferior race to whites and openly admitted it. Lincoln used freed black men to do the slave jobs so that the white men could fight. When John Fremont freed captured contraband (slaves) and requested that they be used as soldiers, Lincoln had the slaves sent back South and relieved Fremont of his duties and made the comment that blacks would make poor soldiers. After 1863 when Lincoln freed just the slaves of the states that were south of the border states, he either killed or imprisoned any blacks that asked for equal pay. Lincoln said that blacks shall never vote, never hold a governmental job, never socialize with whites, and never intermarry whites. He was representative of the American flag, so if you find the Confederate Flag to be a racist symbol, then certainly you must also find the American Flag to be a racist symbol... Unless, of course, I've got you pegged all wrong and you just have an agenda to push. Let me know.
     
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    UN.....BE............LIEVEABLE

    I'm at a loss for words at the cowardice of the left. Well, we know who makes the sandwiches.
     
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    Yeah right... Being locked up in a cell with bars all around you is better than working all day and getting to sleep in your own place at night? Slavery was bad, but it wasn't worse than being locked up. You're just saying that so it sounds like you're favoring your own argument.

    Again, you have zero proof that Jim Crow would still exist. I can't think of one person that wants slaves. Ironically, the feds keep the minority in invisible chains by keeping them dependent on the government and you fail to see that. It's modern day slavery on your own people and you're too focused on what might have been to figure that (*)(*)(*)(*) out. Get your priorities straight there, tiger.
     
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    The slaves didn't own anything. Everything, including their body, was owned by their master.

    It was far worse than being in prison.
     
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    Nothing I said was wrong, and no, I don't see the flag of the USA as a racist symbol. It is a symbol that has been co-opted for agendas over the past few centuries. The Tea Party has even tried to co-opt Captain America, with him appearing at their rallies (until Marvel put a stop to that). Unlike the confederate flag, the flag of the USA was never intended to be a symbol of racial superiority. The flags cannot be compared in such a manner. In fact, many Southerners still call it the "rebel flag" because it's the antithesis of former northern values.

    We all have to draw the line somewhere. We can all find artifacts of racism in all parts of America throughout the history of America. The Constitution still stated that black people are not full people. But I don't see the Constitution as being racist. Not only that, if it was adhered to, black Americans would have more power.

    Don't get me wrong: I do have an agenda.
     

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