Conservatives: Why Do You Claim To Support Small Government But Oppose Gay Marriage?

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  1. Unifier

    Unifier New Member

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    You don't understand social change. It won't happen for quite some time. Because gay is the current sexual victim class du jour. It's what makes everybody on the left feel good to get behind and push for (no pun intended). But this will only last until it is eventually normalized and society is desensitized to it. Then they will seek out another underdog to fight for. And it could very well be those under dogs (pun intended).

    You have to look at the track record of the left. These people have an insatiable appetite for change. It is never quelled. They always have to be fighting for a perceived little guy against a perceived oppressive force. If one does not exist, they will create one.

    Your dismissal of A leading to B because it is not happening so quickly is the equivalent of saying you don't believe in evolution because you've been alive for 19 years and haven't grown wings yet.
     
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    Gay marriage has been around for thousands of years. If it was inevitable that people would marry goats and their X Box's, I figure it would have happened by now.
     
  3. IrishLefty

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    How is it hypocrisy?
     
  4. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Where do you get this information? In fact it can be demonstrated that every culture that has abandoned a strong sexual ethic with clearly defined taboos has deteriorated into non existence. It's impossible to slide into depravity without undoing the very fabric that holds a society together.
     
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    Are you seriously telling me that if gay people are allowed to marry each other, you won't know why you shouldn't marry your dog?

    I did not understand this sentence.
     
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    I agree, which is why forcing the government to redefine marriage as only being between one man and one woman -- like Rick Perry wants to do -- is a bad idea. We should not appease the special interest groups who want to increase the size of government by defining marriage according to their own narrow parameters.
     
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    Except it wouldn't be redefining marriage. The gay movement wants to redefine what has always been accepted traditionally as marriage. The only change in the law would be a clarification that marriage, without exception, is between one man and one woman. Every state has the right to decide what marriage means to them. In Idaho, we ammended our constitution to ensure no judge can rule our marriage laws unconstitutional. By the same token, I have no problem with the fact that other states such as New York and Massechussettes allow gay marriage. That's because conservatives are tolerant and realize America is a big country that can accomodate many differences. It's the shrill Left that's pushing for national legislation to force gay marriage on everyone. It's the Left who is intolerant and hates freedom.

    "As far as I'm concerned, the Tea Party can go straight to hell!" -Maxine Waters. The Democrats are the party of bigotry and intolerance.
     
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    Force it on you? How exactly does that work? Does that mean you have to engage in homosexual behavior because gay marriage is legal? It's not forcing anything ON YOU. Your life will not change much if gay marriage becomes legal. It isn't something that will really affect your everyday life at all. You can still go to work, go to the store, rent videos, go to sporting events, etc. Nothing will really change. It will just be that homosexuals will have the same rights as heterosexuals.
     
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    Well, golly, Leftist, why do you support a huge government controling every aspect of everyone's life and ignoring gay marriage/
     
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    I don't see any reason for gay marriage. It's really not marriage, but more of a civil union.

    I don't think folks should be discriminated against, but do we really need to define gay marriage for that reason? After all, most insurance companies will accept 'significant other' on their policies. The current legal system can be used to resolve most property issues. The one sticking point is that government will not recognize a surviving partner as pertains to earned Social Security benefits, but that is true for any unmarried couple, not just gay couples. Good luck with that one....the govt is always looking for ways to keep money paid in to the system.

    I'll give you a good 'for instance' on what I mean about the SS benefits. Both my parents died in their 50's and were divorced. Having no underage dependents or surviving spouse, the Govt simply kept all the money they had paid into the system over their life times. Funny that is...the govt sends out yearly statements on the money in your SS account, but that money remains the govt's if you don't meet certain criteria. If it was truly 'your' money, it would be passed along to survivors, no matter what. Just another example of a govt rip-off.
     
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    You're trying to mince words. You know perfectly well that marriage hasn't "always" been accepted your way, which is why you throw in the word "traditionally," meaning your traditions and screw everyone else's. And it's not a "clarification," it's a change and a redefinition of marriage to fit one view -- YOUR view.

    And if conservatives were really okay with it being a state issue, Rick Perry wouldn't be trying to pander to you by making it a national law. This is not a matter of liberals interfering with anyone's freedom, this is you trying to make everyone follow your own arbitrary religious beliefs.
     
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    Because they are idiots. that is why. It is not difficult to understand. They have been brainwashed by two seperate but related entities.
    1. business (small government is good)
    2. the church (small govt is good, other than in the areas that it hurts OUR business).

    Don't get me wrong. Most on the left are stupid as well. However, EVERYONE on the right could just about qualify as a moron.
     
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    By forcing other states to accept and recognize gay marriages. It's no different than the fugitive slave act in its imposition upon some states to accept and accomodate the immoral practices of other states.
     
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    Not even close. Try again.
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    Most conservatives claim to want small government, until it comes to things like religion and gay rights. Then they believe the government should step in and make gay marriage illegal, make it legal to discriminate against minorities, and some go as far as wanting the government to step into peoples private lives and make homosexual sex illegal.

    So it's all relative.
     
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    Whatever, banning gay marriage costs the Government nothing. Small government is about cheaper government. As far as I'm concerned, whether gays get married or not is none of my concern, but I don't consider it some great injustice like Jim Crow if they can't.
     
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    one liner OP;s are against the TOS
     
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