Cooking fish and vegetables

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  1. Le Chef

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    And now for a serious political question: since one can eat sushi (and one does), what exactly is "undercooked" fish?

    I wrestle with this dilemma regarding vegetables, as well; they are often served raw at parties and called "crudités" by snotty urbanites. But there are recipes that require they be steamed for "7 minutes." What possible difference can it make if they are cooked for 3 or 9? Maybe they mean don't overcook the broccoli, and I understand that, but there is broccoli soup, which isn't exactly poisonous. Some even like it.

    When I am king, I will require that everyone eat uncooked food. Then I won't have to worry about it anymore, plus we'll save fuel and push back against global warming.

    Harrumph!
     
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    Wikihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sushi Sashimi or other types of sushi containing raw fish present a risk of infection by three main types of parasites:

    For the above reasons, EU regulations forbid the use of fresh raw fish. It must be frozen at temperatures below −20 °C (−4 °F) in all parts of the product for no less than 24 hours.[63] As such, a number of fishing boats, suppliers and end users "super-freeze" fish for sushi to temperatures as low as −60 °C.[64] As well as parasite destruction, super-freezing also prevents oxidation of the blood in tuna flesh, thus preventing the discoloration that happens at temperatures above −20 °C.[65]

    Some forms of sushi, notably those containing pufferfish fugu and some kinds of shellfish, can cause severe poisoning if not prepared properly. Particularly, fugu consumption can be fatal. Fugu fish has a lethal dose of tetrodotoxin in its internal organs and, by law in many countries, must be prepared by a licensed fugu chef who has passed the prefectural examination in Japan.[66] The licensing examination process consists of a written test, a fish-identification test, and a practical test that involves preparing the fugu and separating out the poisonous organs. Only about 35 percent of the applicants pass.[
     
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    There are only a few common vegetables that shouldn't be eaten raw--eggplant, potatoes, and lima beans really being the bad offenders. The first two contain solanine when raw and the latter a form of cyanide. Mostly it is a matter with the others of softening them up a bit to make them easier to chew/digest.
     
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    Like everything else this is more complicated http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ons-munching-raw-potatoe-2009aug05-story.html Peel them and make sure they are not green potatoes and you might even see more benefits than detriments. I do it occasionally.
     
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    Don't forget about fermented foods. Sauerkraut is quite good for you, and it used to be far more common for people to eat such fermented foods, back when they couldn't readily freeze or refrigerate them. Apparently it's probiotic and even helps keep the bad germs away.
     
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    I used to eat raw potatoes as a kid. They gave me bad cramps but I liked the way they tasted. Saw a show one time about these peruvians who would climb some mountain with all the poison potatoes and leave them out to basically freeze dry them to get the toxins out just in case they would be needed the next season if all their seed potato stores went south on them. It was basically a low-tech back up plan.
     
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    We are having buttermilk soaked catfish with fried okra and green beans tonight. I will do the cooking. The catfish will be battered in a batter similar to Captain D's or Long John Silvers. Batter...1/2 cup flower... 1/2 cup corn starch...1/3 cup of milk...1 teaspoon of baking powder. With a little cornmeal added. I hope it turns out well.
     
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    Meh, I love overcooked vegetables. Mushy good.
     
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    I've got a good friend who likes his vegetables cooked "extry," as he calls it.
     
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    Got one too. Everyone complained about the overcooked veggies in the service except me. Sad to say but everything was so much better than moms cooking, bless her soul.
     
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    I like Ocean Trout or Salmon lightly fried in butter with the lid on to steam until cooked... vegetables just a quick steam, hate soggy overcooked vegetables.

    I have eaten raw fish sushi, the laws are pretty strict here in Australia, having said that I would completely avoid raw fish sushi in summer... stick to cooked choices.
     
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    I like most veggies roasted. I also eat a lot of others raw, like carrots, peas, cauliflower, green beans, etc. I prefer some of them raw rather than cooked.
     

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