Cops are gunning down whites, not blacks

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  1. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    The racist BLM narrative has no facts on which to stand.

    Racist, fact-dodging progressives do not care about white lives, and promote divisive anti-white politics.

    The facts show - even after adjusting for population differences - whites are more likely to be killed by police than blacks after you account for felonious homicide of police officers and firing at police officers by race.

    Why are the racist progressives promoting a false narrative that whites are not being disproportionately killed by police?

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    NYPD Firearms Discharge Report, 2011

    Additionally, whites are more likely to be killed by police after adjusting for racial differences in homicide rate of police officers:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/

    But this should come as no surprise; the United States is institutionally racist against whites in favor of privileging blacks and Hispanics.

    Not only are police more racist against whites than blacks, but white cops are less likely to fire at blacks than black and Hispanic police officers. Moreover, black officers are 3.3 times more likely to fire at a scene of a crime than a white officer.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=464566&p=1066388582#post1066388582

    And since nearly 85% of inter-racial black/white crime is black on white, whites have both the police departments across the nation and black community to fear.

    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

    Why don't White Lives Matter for racist progressives?
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The progressive libs don't care to learn pesky statistics. All they need is to have enough people (voters) think that this is a segregated country where anyone not white, male, straight, and Christian is at risk of persecution.

    Their crooked democrat friends with press passes help them peddle the narrative 24/7
     
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    JMO: When whites protest police misconduct, they are shown very little to no support or interest in their grievance. IOW, they are not only ignored by "Racist, fact-dodging progressives." I guess certain pro-whites have to decide whether or not hating black people is more important than breaking rank every once in a while to support white victims of police misconduct. Assuming, they even give a damn about other whites when they can't be used to attack minorities.
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    There's a difference between being critical of police excessive use of force and SOP, and a false narrative that blacks are disproportionately killed by cops relative to whites by ignoring numerous variables. The latter is not fact based and will not address police issues toward the whole community; whites will continue to die by framing a false narrative of state racism against blacks.
     
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    But all the whites deserved it and the blacks were all innocent, unarmed, and good upstanding citizens just trying to work hard and attain the American dream.
     
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    It may not be fact-based but wrong or right narratives drive perception in this country.

    The question for me is this: where are all the pro-whites to bring up police misconduct against whites? If they bring it up, then people may see that police issues aren't just a black issue. As it appears, at least to me, pro-police support, which consists of many whites, either dismiss, suppress, or ignore any police-on-white incidents. So, it seems like it's just a black issue.
     
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    So much whine.
     
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    Ummmm...al you're pointing out is that police are out of control.

    And the statistics show that this "out of control behavior" is more often directed at people of color
     
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    The statistics don't show that police are more out of control towards blacks than whites; they show the opposite.

    Blacks are statistically more violent and after controlling for violence against police then blacks are less likely to be killed by police than whites.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    find for me a single incident of a cop of any race announcing that he's

    "pulling over a driver because he's white and has blue eyes"

    Please, we're all waiting for this evidence of cop racism against whites.
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Seems selective as I can find an example of a police chief expressing public satisfaction a man killed by police officers was white rather than black.

    How is it less violent whites are being disproportionately killed by police compared to blacks?
     
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    Not selective at all. It is the core of the issue.

    show me, then, among all your data, the number of whites killed by police where their bring whie was the sole factor in the initiation of the police contact.

    In other words, a guy, any guy, any time, pulled over for the crime of "driving while white."
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Whites don't fit a criminal profile, but regardless, your request is impossible to prove.

    What you're not addressing is that cops are more likely to gun down whites than violence prone blacks.

    Why?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... but Blacks do.

    the reason you cannot show even a single instance of structural or systemic racism against Whites in this country is not only because it doesn't exist, it is because just the opposite is true. When a white man and Black man commit exactly the same crime and have similar records the Black man wil, on average, be punished far more harshly than his White counterpart.

    Other than that I will let that racist diatribe stand as is.
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    You mean whites are more likely to rape, murder, steal, home invade than blacks?

    Pray tell, what crime do whites commit more often per capita than blacks?

    Structural racism against whites exists in the form of affirmative action.

    Even though whites are less criminal than violent prone blacks, officers end up gunning down whites more often than blacks after adjusting for felonious homicide of police officers.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blacks don't commit crimes because they are Black. To say so is simply the definition of racist thought.

    Poor people commit crimes and Black people tend to be more poor than white People.
    Urban areas tend to see more crime than suburban and rural areas. Poor people tend to live in urban areas and Black people tend to be more poor than White people.

    There is no "poor" gene. There is no "crime" gene. To say otherwise, as you have done, is the definition of racist thought.

    Structural racism doesn't apply to programs designed to overcome existing inequities. Programs that also apply to women, Hispanics, Native Americans, handicapped and other groups. Structural racism applies to racist policies and procedures that have become part of an organization's culture. such as 50 years ago officers would often stop Black drivers because they believed the car they were driving was too expensive for a Black man to afford legally. These officers went on to train generations of officers and their "policing methods" became the standards under which police departments across the country operated. Such that an officer today seeing a Black man driving is AUTOMATICALLY suspicious of that driver. It is not that the officer is racist. The system that trained the officer and created the policies and procedures under which he operates is racist. THAT is systemic racism.

    Now believing that Black people commit crimes because they are somehow "genetically inclined" toward criminality? That's a whole different type of racism.
     
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    Prince George's County is high income, majority Black, low poverty rate county, and yet still manages to have a high murder rate.

    How come?

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    In recent years Asians, and Hispanics have both have had very high poverty rates, above that of Blacks in New York City.

    Yet, Asians still have low crime rates, and Hispanics high crime rates, but not very high crime rates like Blacks.

    How come?
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Feel free substantiating the claim racial crime disparities are equalized by adjusting for income level.

    Feel free substantiating a high correlation between population density and criminality.

    You've done nothing but spew conventional wisdom talking points without the least bit of evidence to support anything you've said.

    Claiming discrimination against whites to privilege other races is not racism because it's intended to help others is nothing short of Orwellian. Of course discrimination against a group based on racial background is the definition of racism.

    If blacks are supposedly profiled it is because they are more violence prone than whites.

    It's funny you still have not addressed actual facts in this thread, such as why whites are more likely to be gunned down by police officers after adjusting for violence against police, or why black cops are more violent than white cops.
     
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    This issue is soo exhausting lol.

    The facts dont support the BLM narrative. They don't care and will continue doing whatever they want until slowly but surely more and more they become more objective critical thinkers.

    Then we will see progress.
     
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    And in parts of Kentucky and West Virginia 100% of the crime rate is attributable to Whites.

    So.....

    AND, according to Trump, Mexicans are rapists and murderers. Soooooo....

    Cherry picking stats is a liar's tool.
     
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    For the period 2008–12—
    Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).

    Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8–2.5 per 1,000).

    The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.

    Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).

    Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).

    Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

    http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137

    "The degree of minority population in an area is also correlated with poverty due to the disproportional amount of minorities living in impoverished urban areas. In addition, racism towards minorities can lead to lower wages and fewer jobs, resulting in higher poverty rates. In 1995, all Metropolitan Areas with unemployment rates over 12% also had a population composed of at least 30% minorities."


    http://economics.fundamentalfinance.com/povertycrime.php

    All you have to do is look. Of course, to look, you must first open your eyes.

    As to the claim...A Washington Times cherry picked article is not a valid source. Check the source of their claim and inside you will find that unarmed Blacks, based on population, are some 5 times more likely to be killed by police than unarmed Whites. Liars figure and "conservatives" lie.
     
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    You're going to need to show links and stats to support your claims about Prince George's County.

    Median income
    Population size and density
    Overal crime rate
    Murder rate
    Comparisons to other SIMILAR counties.

    The brief look I did found crime rates lower than neighboring areas and declining
     
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    I see you're incapable of basic research. None of those sources show whites and blacks have the same crime rate adjusted for poverty level.

    Just a quick thought test would confirm that : there are nearly twice as many impoverished whites as blacks yet blacks commit 52% of homicides in the US.

    Do you understand the question?
     
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    Maybe because the vast majority of white people figure that when a person gets shot by a cop there was probably a good reason for doing it. We don't normally defend idiots. Civilians that is. Celebrities and politicians are defending blindly for no logical reason.


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    Are you stupid or do you just play stupid on forums?

    Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

    Poor urban whites had a HIGHER rate of violence than poor urban Blacks.

    I don't feel a need to adjust for racist viewpoints. The data speaks for itself.

    Violent crime rates are similar for poor people, Black and White, Urban and Rural. Race has nothing to do with it.
     

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