Cops Arrest 2 Black Men Sitting In Starbucks For ‘Trespassing’: Video

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It’s not unusual to see people coming to Starbucks to chat, meet up or even work. We’re a neighborhood gathering place, a part of the daily routine – and we couldn’t be happier about it. Get to know us and you’ll see: we are so much more than what we brew.

 

Muh privilege! How awesome that you get to assuage that guilt by posting about the plight of the poor black man.

 

I understand what you are saying, and in a small way I agree with you, but people will visit stores just for their wifi, and thy are never asked to leave, I certainly have seen that plenty of times.

 

thats all very utopian and lovely, but in the real world Starbucks is a private business not a public gathering place.

its also a franchized business, and the franchize owner does have the right to ask all its patrons do actually purchase something if they are going to make use of their facilities, especially for an extended period of time.


folks need to wake up and get real.

 

I hear Stormfront calling....

 

yes, it happens all the time.

doesnt change the fact that the business DOES have the legal right to ask all patrons buy something, even just a ****ing candy bar, if they are going to make use of the facilities.

 

I am not arguing that, but Matt84, does make a better argument that there people who just sit in places such as Starbucks, without any issue, I have seen it at Panera Bread and even in bars, especially hotel bars.

 

Not at all.

 

Why don't you just come out and say what we all know you're just dying to say and that's whenever something bad happens to blacks they are the victims, and whenever blacks do something bad it's because they are victims. Just say it and let your inner guilt flow.

 

I would hope the owners asked them to leave politely and the cops asked them to leave once again before taking the option of arresting someone, but that doesn't always happen

if they refused to leave, they brought this on themselves

I would of left after the first time being asked by the business or bought something small like a plain coffee

 

for some reason guys refuse to acknowledge that private stores have the legal right to ask that folks buy something or at least shop, or leave.

you have no legal right to treat CVS, Target, or Walmart like a public park

 

The OP still says the thugs with badges were not able to charge their victims with any crime.
So they shouldn't haven been arrested in the first place. It's abuse of power. Just bad apples we don't need.

 

Stores have nearly universally encouraged 'browsing" since the 1850's. However, this IS a Starbuck's, which is a restaurant, sort of, so loitering is not expected. And you can call the cops without ever asking anyone anything, just because they look "suspicious" You're not compelled to ask anyone anything as their mere presence can scare you given the proper circumstance (frex, robberies in the neigborhood, etc.)

Now that does NOT mean they can be arrested, UNLESS the cop asks them to leave and they don't. Then you are "disobeying the lawful order of a police officer" and the police do become upset at this.

 

they should have been arrested IF and only IF they were asked to leave and they refused to leave

 

No, the cops did their job, removing trespassers at the owners request. The trespassers were asked three times politely to leave. When they refused it is fitting and proper to arrest them.

What would you have them do? Give up and let them trespass?

 

please point to an article that says they were asked to leave and they refused.

thanks

 

Which in fact is what happened.

'Ross said the men were told they were trespassing and were “asked to leave politely,” three times. He said the men answered that “we don’t care,” which Ross called the “same type of attitude” Starbucks staff had described. Ross said police on the scene, “in an effort to quell the situation, called for a supervisor” to keep things from getting “out of hand.” He praised that decision.'

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/s...-viral-video-investigation-race-20180414.html

 

See above.

 

I am assuming they were as that is the only thing that makes sense, otherwise the cops would need training on how to deescalate a situation when possible

 

How about we stick to the facts of what couldn't have been done, and conclude from there? And that is,.. no charges were able to be made, hence it's we can only conclude they were not asked to leave / they refused. So all we got are thugs with badges abusing their power and intimidating black people. Bad apples need to go. Period.

 

well there ya go.... they were asked multiple times to leave.... the men could of walked out had they choose too, they choose to leave in cuffs - had they been white the charges would most likely not of been dropped

there is plenty of "real" examples of blacks being mistreated by the police and businesses, this is not one of them

 

perhaps you can retrain the DA because the DA saw no crime.

 

Wimmer told BuzzFeed that a white female manager at the store had asked the pair to leave when they came in and did not order anything. According to Wimmer, the men said they were waiting to meet someone, and the manager called the police.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...black-men-arrests_us_5ad22073e4b077c89ce91c74



ok, we now have evidence that the store manager asked them to leave when it became clear they had no interest in buying anything but instead just wanted to wait for their friend.

did the store manager ask them to leave because they are black? its possible, cant prove it.

did she have the legal right to ask them, as non-patrons, to leave?

yes she did.

Did they commit tresspassing by refusing to leave? yes they did.

 

tresspassing is a crime.

it is a crime to not leave a store after being asked to leave, especially if you are being asked to leave due to failure to patronize the store.

 

The cops don't want to provoke any riots, so they let this one slide. To do otherwise would be to play into the hands of BLM or some other group out to provoke racial strife.