Corona virus deaths in Italy and national healthcare

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Link?
     
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    That goes for every healthcare system. No healthcare system is ready for everyone being sick. We have enough doctors and hospital beds for the usual number, but not for millions more.
     
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    Everyone is sick and hospitalized in italy? Who knew? LOL
     
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    Just bi-weekly withholding
     
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    AKA a premium not "free"
     
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    MSM is working against the country. There's not been an encouraging word or anything done right in 1732 days.
     
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    You are taking my statement a little too literally. Every healthcare system is only able to handle a bit more than the usual number being sick every year. So when an unusually high number becomes sick, there will be shortages and lines. This is because it is impractical to maintain a much larger number of staff and facilities than needed at at all times.
     
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    Socialized medicine operates at a minimalist level which is why there are such long waits for procedures and why they are quickly overwhelmed by by an out of the ordinary event.
     
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    Why would there be "millions more"?
     
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    That's the rub.
    People who earn half as much as you think you should pay twice as much as them.
    Total moochers
     
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    The Corona virus is probably going to infect tens of millions of people in the US. And millions of those will be severe or critical cases that need medical attention.
     
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    Its good Australia is doing something. In the US, we are debating over whether the virus is even a problem at all.
     
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    That sounds awful. Are you sure?
     
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    Testing.
     
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    I thought we were arguing over whether the President could shut the boarders... You know. like "doing something about it".... Just saying, if the virus can't get here, no one gets it, do they?
     
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    Death curve looking very flat in the USA.
     
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    That's the one thing I fault Trump on -- he should have stopped ALL international flights, closed all POE's, restricted merchant marine sailors to their ships on Jan 31, and closed the borders except for trade goods, that is, hit coronavirus with an iron fist.

    Easy to see in hindsight, tough to do in the heat of the moment.
     
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    Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, said he expects 70 million to 150 million people in the United States will become infected with COVID-19, NBC News reported Wednesday, citing two sources.
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    “Things will get worse than they are right now’’ if the disease is not contained, Fauci said. He warned that “many, many millions” could be infected with the virus unless the government handles the situation correctly.

    Bad news.... The virus is already here.
     
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    Perhaps. Perhaps there was compelling information provided by the Chinese that their internal containment was going to be successful.. As the CDC says, when the weather changes, we might be able to relax these but it isn't certain. Perhaps this is the nail in the coffin for globalism....
     
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    Sounds like good business for Dr Brian Monahan. Maybe he should explain how his prediction will be able to overcome social distancing and containment... But NBC always finds the wackos and always, there are folks here who flock to it.
     
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    If it ends globalism the COVID-19 episode is well worth it.
     
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    Don't forget to call Trump about Fauci. :)
    “Things will get worse than they are right now’’ if the disease is not contained, Fauci said. He warned that “many, many millions” could be infected with the virus unless the government handles the situation correctly.
     
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    Your point?
     
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    That ain't no shet things are going to get worse with coronavirus. But it won't be anything near as bad as the common flu.
     

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