Costs Of War

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  1. SMDBill

    SMDBill Well-Known Member

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    You're free to believe the Dick Cheney version of the war in Iraq if you wish. It's not conspiracy because it's a fact that it happened, and the central bank was established there before the new government was established. How do you think that may have happened? Believe what you wish, but you can look at those two countries and the outcome was the same in both. They now rely on US dollars and prior to our "invasion" they were attempting to circumvent it. Surely you can connect those dots even with Dick Cheney whispering lies about WMD's in your ear.
     
  2. Margot2

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    Show me where OBL bragged that he spent 500 K on 9-11. It probably didn't cost very much, but you should provide some documentation for OBL's quote.
     
  3. Germania

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    In a book called, "Seal Target Geronamo", by the former leader of Seal Team Six, Bin Laden bragged about how this was hurting the US's economy, saying, "We spent about 500k on 9/11, but according to the most conservative estimates, the US spent 500 billion so far". And this was 5-8 years ago. It was a page in the book. You can google the book online.
     
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    So OBL bragged to the Seal Team Six?????
     
  5. Germania

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    When it comes down to you or somebody whoes battled against terrorism and spent years researching Bin Laden, I go with expert. He said it, perhaps it was a speech, perhaps to somebody who resaid it who resaid it, and now it's known. I don't know. There was another poll that came out pre-9/11 that showed Al-Qaeda was more liked than America internationally, and he was delighted according to him. I don't think he's lying....
     
  6. 100%FREEDOM

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    One trillion dollars is a million dollars a day for THREE THOUSAND YEARS.
     
  7. CourtJester

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    So what is your theory about why we went to war so fast. Remember UN inspectors found no WMD, the yellow cake purchase had already been debunked and the aluminum centrifuge tubes had turned out to be phony balcony. The start of the war could clearly have waited months without any danger to the United States. Of course by then Saddam might have agreed to inspection of his palaces in which case the whole WMD rational would have fallen apart.
     
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    If you have the book,please provide documentation. Book is not available online. We know he did not interview Bin Ladin so where did the information come from.
     
  9. Germania

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    http://www.target.com/p/seal-target...sku=13826481&gclid=COiy56Lhi78CFUYA7Aodr3YArQ

    I'm not going to argue with you, and whether he said it or not, they obviously didn't spend millions on it, and we spent billions, high billions, anyone with a brain knows this.
     
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  11. Lil Mike

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    Went to war fast? We had a full year of public debate about it. That wasn't fast; it was fairly slow and deliberate.

    As far as the specifics you mentioned, the aluminum tubes did turn out to be phony baloney. Ultimately I lay that at the feet of the CIA, who went with the interpretation that they were to be used with nuclear weapons somehow. But the war didn't swing on the use of the aluminum tubes.

    But for the yellow cake, I don't have any information that it was debunked, only the infamous Joseph Wilson editorial that he didn't find any evidence of that. However after the war, we sure enough found yellow cake uranium in Iraq. And lots of WMD was found in Iraq, it just wasn't nuclear related, it was mostly CW. If we had known that we would only find evidence of chemical weapons instead of nuclear weapons I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have invaded on that account, but the idea that SMDBill was trying to pimp that we wanted to get Iraq back on a dollar economy for oil, which I've already explained, is ridiculous. Even under the Oil for Food program it was all denominated in dollars. Even if you are selling oil in the black market, it's still probably going to be in dollars. If you are dealing in oil, you can't get around dollars.
     
  12. Germania

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    That was the MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. The most conservative estimate, to how much you hieght is, assuming your an adult, according to the world record, would mean you are at least 2'10" tall. However, it's much more likely you are 5'3" to 6'5". I don't know. It's an analogy. The number he put may very well be right. That's just the most conservative. THE LEAST.
     
  13. Riot

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    Are we talking about the Dems war on veterans?
     

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