Covid may be getting the blame for deaths caused by the drug "Remdesivir"

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    This doctor says that, early in the pandemic, deaths that were attributed to covid were really caused by the drug "Remdesivir".

    REMDESIVIR IS KILLING PEOPLE
    https://odysee.com/@Hemeroteca:f/REMDESIVIR-IS-KILLING:d

    COVID-19 Hospital Protocols Have Turned Hospitals Into Killing Fields
    https://odysee.com/@Robert-Self:a0/...s-Have-Turned-Hospitals-Into-Killing-Fields:4


    He says that it causes kidney failure which in turn causes the lungs to fill up with fluid.


    This nurse says the same thing.

    Whistleblower Nurse Destroys Delta Narrative Vaccinated Patients Fill Hospital.
    https://odysee.com/@OurFreeSociety:...Narrative-Vaccinated-Patients-Fill-Hospital:5
     
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    You are going to find this video to be profoundly encouraging....
    I sure did.....

    This is Ontario M.L.A. Mr. Rick Nicholls.....
    he refused to take the Covid 19 vaccine and is now an independent....



    "Is the truth finally being spoken in the Ontario Legislature?? "


    https://ricknichollsmpp.ca/





    And my apologies but I do not know how my post fits with the drug
    REMDESIVIR
     
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  3. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Wow, conspiracy clown denying the virus again?
     
  5. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Really? You quote a search engine with the key word remdesivir? Hmmm, that's not very scientific is it!?

    It's quite a comedy to blame an anti-viral curative instead of the damn thing it is designed to treat!

    So, let's get scientific here shall we? Dr. Ardis is a Texan Chiropractor. Got that? What world of batshit is this clown qualified to assess the affects of an anti-viral!?
    Remdesivir and Mortality in Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019 | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com)
     
  7. Scott

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    Your document is from the mainstream*. The anti-vaxxers' position is that the mainstream is lying.


    What is an objective thinking person supposed to think when he or she sees info such as the above and this? (In the video a doctor says he's had a lot of success treating covid with ivermectin)

    EPISODE 321: THE WAR ON STUPIDITY
    https://www.brighteon.com/4902aeb9-5f8f-4301-b141-94d1e8a1f97c

    Medicine that works is suppressed and medicine that not only doesn't work but will probably kill the patient is promoted. It kind of looks like they want people to die.


    *
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-lies-furiously.583345/page-4#post-1074043812
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-lies-furiously.583345/page-3#post-1074006680
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-lies-furiously.583345/page-3#post-1074004987
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-lies-furiously.583345/page-2#post-1072771889
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-lies-furiously.583345/page-2#post-1072652969
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can't tell the difference between science and propaganda, and you're not alone. As you show, most Americans have been conditioned to believe that anybody wearing a white lab coat with a stethoscope hanging round his neck is a scientist or doctor. Humans are very gullible, they can be easily led.
     
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    This is the purest form of irony you can get. The batshittery coming from crank doctors, a frickin' chiropractor in this case!
    Just for casual and/or neutral viewers, I most certainly CAN tell the difference between science and batshit.
     
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    GRIM REAPOR of medications Remdesivir STILL being promoted with hospital bonuses for use on “Covid-19” victims
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-06...omoted-hospital-bonuses-covid-19-victims.html
    (excerpt)
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    Remdesivir is responsible for an untold number of renal failures. People are trapped inside the death chambers (hospitals like concentration camps), where no relatives can even visit them, while they die from Remdesivir and ventilators, not Covid. Yet still, the death is chalked up as caused by Covid or “died with Covid” so the hospitals can soak up those bonuses from the Biden Regime and Big Pharma.

    “Remdesivir caused a lot of renal failures,” Ralph Lorigo, a lawyer in Buffalo says, “If you got Covid, the hospital put you on this government protocol and didn’t even check if you have kidney disease. There was a real lack of monitoring.”
     
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    So a money-grabbing lawyer is on the case, backed up by a chiropractor!

    This is your "scientific method" is it?
     
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    Remdesivir doesn't kill people. I would be more inclined to believe a story about this drug if it was linked to profits whilst knowing it wasn't much use.
     
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    Trump took that drug when he got Covid

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=trump+covid+treatment+REMDESIVIR

    "the president's medical team confirmed he had started a course of remdesivir, an antiviral drug shown to modestly help hospitalized COVID-19 patients."

    "8 drugs Trump has been given for his COVID-19 treatment"

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...as-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html

    "Dexamethasone — President Trump was prescribed the steroid dexamethasone, a drug commonly used to treat asthma, rheumatoid arthritis and certain cancer, on Oct. 3. Sean Conley, DO, the president's physician, said the steroid was given to him in response to his blood oxygen levels dropping twice to 93 percent, according to STAT."

    "Remdesivir — President Trump was given his first dose of remdesivir Oct. 2, and he will be given a five-day course, CNN reported. Remdesivir, made by Gilead (who gave it the brand name of Veklury), was granted emergency use authorization by the FDA on May 1 after a study showed it caused a 31 percent faster recovery time compared to a placebo. "

    "Regeneron's monoclonal antibody — On Oct. 2, the White House released a letter saying the president received a single 8-gram dose of Regeneron's monoclonal antibody cocktail, called REGN-COV2, the highest dose of the drug being tested in late-stage clinical trials, according to Politico."

    "Zinc — President Trump also has been given zinc, according to the Times, which helps the immune system fight outside bacteria and viruses. Zinc is an essential mineral that is naturally present in some foods and is available as a dietary supplement. There is no evidence that zinc helps fight COVID-19, and the FDA has issued warning letters to some companies that have tried to claim there's a link between zinc products and reduced risk of COVID-19."

    "Vitamin D — President Trump has been given vitamin D, the Times reported, which is good for bone health. There is no evidence vitamin D directly reduces the risk of COVID-19, and the FDA has sent warning letters to companies trying to sell vitamin D products as COVID-19 treatments. Vitamin D can also help reduce inflammation, according to the National Institutes of Health."

    "Famotidine — The generic name for Pepcid, famotidine is commonly used to treat ulcers, heartburn, indigestion and reduces the amount of acid in the stomach. A clinical trial testing the drug in hospitalized COVID-19 patients in New York wasn't able to recruit enough patients to properly evaluate its impact, according to Science."

    "Melatonin — Commonly used to treat insomnia, some studies have suggested that melatonin could also help COVID-19 patients with diabetes and obesity"

    "Aspirin — Commonly given to older patients to prevent heart disease, aspirin is also a popular painkiller. It can reduce the risk of blood-clotting, and evidence has shown COVID-19 can trigger blood clots in some patients. The president has mild heart disease, the Times reported."
     
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    We read that he took it but did he really take it?
     
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    Did Trump really have COVID?

    For that matter, does Trump really exist? Have you actually seen him in person? AI is very convincing nowadays.
     
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    We can't be sure about anything the mainstream media say. His having had COVID wouldn't be surprising but the idea that he took remdesivir makes no sense at all as he's one of the liars on the disinfo team; they all know that remdesivir kills. If the media said he took remdesivir, it was to reenforce the official narrative. If he had COVID, he probably took ivermectin*.

    *
    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=ivermectin
     
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    Yes we can. We can't be sure about one single thing you post from your batshit sources.

    How would you know what makes sense? You confess many times that you are a layman, so you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Your posts are from the "disinfo" team. Making statements that are a) false and b) you can't back up, are actually meaningless.

    The classic bullshit statement, made with neither proof or substance.
    More of your useless circular reasoning.

    As equally useless.
     
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    What did they talk about? What steps, of course using the "scientific method", did you take to verify it or disprove it? Please tell me this isn't see batshit post batshit?
     
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    How am I supposed to prove it or disprove it? I'm a layman. Why don't you give your analysis of it instead of focusing on me? The viewers can listen to those professionals and read your analysis and come to their own conclusions.
     
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    By using a scientific method!!
    Why should anyone offer rebuttal to any of the hundreds of spam posts you make when you ignore them ALL! Rebuttal nearly always includes data that YOU should have looked into in the first place!
    Spam statement - the only ones who agree with you are fellow conspiracy theorists. You ignore all the professionals who disagree with ANYTHING you post! You also ignore key points of even small responses, such as What did they talk about? Why do you NEVER put details of the points you are making instead of dumping these batshit videos up?
     
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    Part of the scientific method is knowing your limits. I'm a layman. Only medical prodessionals who've worked in ICU's are in a position to do the kind of analyses that you demand I do.

    I post stuff so that it can be discussed. If you think it's bogus info, explain why. Nothing you've said so far discredits that info.

    A lot of professionals are afraid to say what they think because it will be career-suicide.

    Doctors can no longer question anything the vaccine industry calls “science” or they get targeted for de-licensing by Dr. Richard “Misinformation” Baron
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-10-02-doctors-cant-question-vaccine-industry-or-targeted.html

    As I've told you before, what I see happening around me is not consistent with what the pro-mainstream professionals say. It's consistent with what the alternative prefessionals say. Being a layman, that's about as far as I can go.
     
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    Why should anyone offer rebuttal to any of the hundreds of spam posts you make when you ignore them ALL! Rebuttal nearly always includes data that YOU should have looked into in the first place!
    As you say, you are a layman who has performed NO scientific analysis. How exactly have you assessed this! You contradict yourself completely.
    That's bullshit.
    Spam and I don't believe you. I've asked a dozen questions about "what you see happening" and you evaded every one of them.
    You have no idea what the scientific method is! It is NOT confirmation bias! You need to seek ways to disprove something or find faults with it BEFORE you spread it around as some sort of "covid conspiracy" crusade!

    Once again you ignore a dead simple thing:
    What did they talk about? Why do you NEVER put details of the points you are making instead of dumping these batshit videos up?
     

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