Dayton mass shooter supported violent Antifa movement

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  1. Bearack

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    Hmm... Should AOC also be held accountable for the deaths in Dayton as this "domestic terrorist" used the same incendiary language of "concentration" camps in his feeds?. Or will Dayton be swept under the rug since this nut bag was an Antifa supporting nut bag whom was a registered democrat? Or will democrats also try to tie this hateful person to Trump somehow....

    Curious minds want to know!

     
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    "Also" is not applicable though.... Trump has nothing to do with White Supremacists or any other Nazis, they existed long before Trump and all 50 of them will continue to exist long after he is gone.

    Antifa on the other hand was born by the idiotic TDS driven liberal RESIST movement and remains the integral "brown shirt" part of it, responsible for physical intimidation and suppression of the opposition. The dems all tacitly if not explicitly support them.

    The entire liberal establishment fully owns their actions, not just AOC and Maxine Waters. They have blood on their hands, not Trump.
     
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    This will be swept under the rug, expect all talk from here on out to be focused entirely on El Paso...
     
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    Ayep... Kind of figured!

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    Interesting, a registered Democrat who admired a guy who wanted to blow up an ICE facility.
     
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    I predict another strangely liberal-free thread.
     
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    We all knew that Antifa was headed for murder. Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer.

    It's time to use the law enforcement tools that we used to clear up organized crime to clean up Sharia Supremacist, White Supremacists, Antifa and other groups who hate our society and attack the innocent in order to terrorize in an attempt to gain extra-legal compliance by the rest of society.

    When it comes to condemning the Dayton shooter’s militant far-left views, the left remains mum.

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    Betts, the Dayton shooters, extensive social-media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired his violent ideology.

    Betts had long expressed support for Antifa. He supported the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of “anti-fascism.” Betts promoted the extreme hatred of American border enforcement that reminds one the Left and the Squad of AOC, Tlabia and Omar.

    “Kill every fascist,” the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues. And on the Left, "fascist" equals anyone who dares to disagree with them. Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent. “Nazis deserve death and nothing else,” he tweeted last October. "Nazi's" of course, are anyone that dares to disagree with the Left. Betts frequently flung the label “Nazi” at those with whom he disagreed online.

    By December, he reached out on Twitter to the Socialist Rifle Association, an antifa gun group, to comment about bump stocks, and the SRA responded to him. (A bump stock is an attachment for semiautomatic rifles that allow them to fire much faster.)

    In the months leading to his rampage, Betts expressed a longing for climactic confrontation. In response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, “Yes, Let’s Defeat or Impeach Trump—but What If He Doesn’t Leave the White House?” the shooter wrote: “Arm, train, prepare.”

    HE SUPPORTED IMPLEMENTING SOCIAL THROUGH VIOLENCE

    By June he tweeted: “I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.” Last week, he promoted posts that demonized Sens. Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy’s resolution against antifa extremism.

    When it comes to far-left violent extremism, there is a gaping blind spot in the mainstream discourse, and we are less safe because of it.

    The Dayton shooter promoted the same virulently anti-law-enforcement rhetoric that the mainstream figures do. Of course it was courageous police officers who quickly shot and killed him.

    Antifa’s violent ideology promotes the that liberal democracy is irredeemably oppressive, fascistic, and must be thoroughly destroyed.

    Acts of extreme violence against individuals, property and the state are seen as stepping stones, bringing us closer to the collapse of society and a new, more just societal order, it's the idealogy of Charles Manson in its early stages before they went on their murder spree.

    Last month, an antifa militant firebombed an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Tacoma, Wash. Willem van Spronsen was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack. His gun malfunctioned before he could fire. In his manifesto, he called for his “comrades” to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state. In one of Betts’ tweets before he extinguished the lives of nine fellow Americans, he responded to a person asking if van Spronsen had been a “villain or martyr?”

    Betts flatly replied: “martyr.”
     
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    What the f**k is OAN?
     
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    Still there is no indication that this shooter was politically motivated. He returned to a bar where his sister and a friend were and killed them and others. Unlike the pro-Trump shooter, this one did not drive 10 hours to shoot people of a particular ethnic or political persuasion.
     
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    Antifa has been allowed to spread their violence and now it's escalated to mass murder. We warned of this happening but most of those on the left secretly supported Antifa and some were open and vocal about it.
     
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    We'll never know since the media has been rather quiet about it. Judging by his social media posts, he was very angry and supported political violence so it's safe to assume that's what pushed him to murder.
     
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    You folks having trouble balancing your soapbox on the Dayton corpses? This one is a lefty, others have been lefties, but oddly you folks seem to ignore them. Why is that?
     
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    The majority of people killed in this attack were african american.

    RIP.
     
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    Exactly. And a friend of his was explicit that he had mental problems for a long, long time. This is an instance not of a person with a political agenda but someone who was mentally ill and should have been red flagged years ago when the school authorities at his high school knew he had a hit list of classmates he wanted to kill. They did nothing but warn the other students. They should have reported him to the police. This was an instance of why we need background checks and why people should have to be vetted and licensed before they are allowed to buy a weapon. All the weapons in these recent mass shootings were obtained legally.
     
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    He didn't kill anyone because they were immigrants. He wasn't motivated by racism or politics. He was just into killing people. It's a completely different issue. Are you having trouble discerning the difference between terrorism and baseless violence? In both instances, the real problem is the easy access to military style weaponry.
     
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    Well, thank God!!! He was just killing people and not targeting race. Yep....makes all the difference in the world. Not sure the people that died would agree with you, but hey....can't pass up on a good narrative.
     
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    The dayton antifa shooter was a socialist into snuff porn.

    He was interviewed by The Young Turks-who is the group that helped get "the squad" into power.
     
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    You don't know that. You're guessing and hoping.
     
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    We all ready have background checks.
     
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    Nope, he was a lefty mass murdering dirt bag, the one in El Paso appears to be a righty mass murdering dirt bag, good for the goose is good for the gander. Otherwise its just pure hypocrisy, oh I get it now...
     
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    When you look at the statistics on mass shootings, they do not discern between "terrorism" and "baseless violence." Not sure I do either. Dayton murderer sure sounds to me like he may have been pretty politically motivated. That should be examined more.
     
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    You purposely don't get it. You just can't accept that Trump's hateful rhetoric is having an effect on mentally unstable people and driving them to act out like this. You refuse to accept that Antifa is not like Trump, because Antifa is not advocating hatred or violence. You refuse to accept that it's people on the right, not the left, who are committing and attempting to commit acts of terrorism.

    While both were clearly messed-up individuals and it clearly takes a messed up individual to go murder a bunch of people, these two also had clear differences that you are choosing to ignore as you seek to falsely equate them as a form of wagon-circling defense. I get it. You don't want to be associated with someone like that as a pro-Trumper yourself. And honestly, you shouldn't be, because obviously you don't share their sickness or approve of what they have done. But that is not the point or the issue here. The issue is that Trump encourages such people with his rhetoric, even if he doesn't understand this fact himself or purposely set out to do so. This is why people are calling on him to tone it down and to condemn the white nationalists and supremacists who have such high regard for him precisely because of his racist, hateful rhetoric and racist, hateful immigration policies. He should stop calling refugees invaders, for instance. Such language has an effect on people, and we are seeing that here.
     
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    Yet the violent and hateful rhetoric is immune from the same standard?

    You are just upset that one of your ilk has been found put and you cannot dump it on Trump.
     
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    If you recognize yourself to be a FASCIST then you should fear Antifa.If you are not a FASCIST, no problem.
     
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    More on the Antifa mass shooter here...
     

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