Defining Jihad: its early inception and modern use.

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  1. Khalil

    Khalil New Member

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    Actually, from looking at your conversation with MF, your the one not contradicting what he says.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No, directly contradict his silly essay. You can tell by his denial in response.
     
  3. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    You'll have to spell it out because no one can see it.

    Denial?

    I never said jihad wasnt a military concept. You continually cited Bukhari, talking about western interpretations that I never even discussed in this regard, to prove a point that I did not disagree with ie, that jihad is a military concept amongst other things. One the next point you continually stated jizya was a monolithic and subjective concept whereas I showed it was far from any of that.
    I dont see what your point here is, unless this is the point you apologize for your childish plagiarism claims.
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You claim "the concept of jihad was not, in the Quran, primarily or mainly about fighting and warfare." when quite clearly it is. In the Bukhari Hadiths it is very much, primarily about fighting and warfare.

     
  5. Khalil

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    Again, repeating something he agrees with is pointless.

    He never said it wasn't in the Quran in his essay. Why are you even posting here?
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I am directly contradicting him. You obviously arent even comprehending the discussion
     
  7. Khalil

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    Keep telling yourself that. This isn't a discussion I really care too much about, I just read through a few of the pages and mentioned that you haven't actually done a good job at contradicting him.
     
  8. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    So Bukhari hadiths are "in the Quran"? You didnt read me correctly mate. As per usual you are attacking ghosts.
     
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Noooo, the hadiths are not in the Quran. No one claimed it was. Jihad is primarily about fighting in the quran as well.
     
  10. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL I just found it remarkable how you justified the claim that the quran is mostly about jihad and fighting - by referencing something that isnt the quran! That just about sums up your evidence based research. haha.

    As per usual you are wrong again Dix. Jihad 'occurs thirty-five times in the Quran, but in only four verses is it explicitly used to mean "war" (eleven uses are expressely pacifistic: the rest are open to multiple interpretations, some contradictory), an indication of the tensions that existed in the early Muslim community when it came to issues of war and violence.' Reza Aslan, How to Win a Cosmic War, (London: Arrow Books, 2010), 186. See Richard Bonney, Jihad: From Quran to Bin Laden (New York: Plagrave, 2005) for more on that point.
     

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