Democrats shift Senate campaign strategy from victory to "Limit the losses"

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Tell us how Trump has had any positive effects when tax cuts aren't realized till fiscal. Year 2019.
     
  2. MAGA

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    But they are reslized.

    As soon as they were passed companies started hiring, giving bonuses, and raises.

    The day that Hillary lost and Trump won had an effect because employers knew a pro-American Business POTUS was coming.
     
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    Dems always were aware the chance for getting a Senate majority were very slim.

    Now they are concentrating holding on to what they can.
     
  4. dagosa

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    You actually fell for that ?
    Tell me, how much money have you got back in your tax cut ? Don’t say you have,,,,..you haven’t even filed your 2018; tax returns.
    Some Companies gave temp bonuses and many after they cut their work force. No one has spent any of their tax refunds because no one has them yet .If you think companies spend money they “ plan “ on getting from the govt. in another fiscal year, I have beach front property in Arizona to sell you. No wonder gullibles voted for lie a minute Trump.
     
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  5. MAGA

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    I actually witnessed it take place.

    Of course every single company in America didn't hire more people Einstein....

    The economic boom is so deep, wide, clear, and unmistakable Obama is trying to take credit for it.

    Look.... I'll help you out here.... Clearly you don't know how taxes and tax withholding works.... Well over 100 Million Americans have been getting their tax cuts in their paychecks all year long...... We don't have to file our taxes to get it, because it's ours.... Have you ever had a job? Ever?
     
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  6. dagosa

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    You’ve witnesses NOTHING. THIS IS FROM MARKET WATCH
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...-windfall-hint-they-didnt-spend-it-2018-05-30



    Show the proof. You’re word means nothing. You don’t even beleive in AGW, which is a scinctific fact. Your opinion is worthless.
     
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    You see stars.....it doesn’t exist.it never has before for umtargeted massive tax cuts. Businesses don’t work that way. They spend with cash in hand.

    http://www.columbiatribune.com/news...-of-claim-that-wages-will-soar-after-tax-cuts
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
     
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    I don’t need the help of anyone who doesn’t believe in science.
     
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    If the economic boom is so deep and wide, why is the market lower after the cuts then before ?
    Trump thought he was the big reason it went up. Why isn’t he the big reason it has dropped ?

    If it’s such a boom to the economy, why has the Republican lead Congress now projected big deficits that have to be covered by cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and SS.
     
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  11. MAGA

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    I didn't intend to trigger you (that's just icing on the cake).

    I guess you didn't hear about the historically low unemployment, record high total work force %, and GDP gains almost doubling Obambi's average.

    If American's prosperity bothers you, that's a personal problem
     
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    dagosa sweeps away MAGA's opinions.

    America's prosperity rests on an unlevel foundation that will collapse if the base is not evened.
     
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  13. MAGA

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    Fine. Get someone else to explain tax withholding to you.
     
  14. MAGA

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    Progs can always hope and pray America collapses.

    In the meantime, we're MAGA.
     
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    I’ve lived it, FOR YEARS. As a group, Small businesses ( and large) do not payout PROJECTED tax savings in actual expenses . They invest Projected tax savings they withhold . They keep monies in house-till then and accumulate interest on the deductions they take out. Why would they spend it then and loose the interest ? That could be millions for large corps. If businesses are wrong and invest unrealized tax savings because of any down turn in business, they could go bankrupt. You really don’t get it. A tax deduction is only real money after you realize an actual net profit. Until then, it’s no more then a PROMISE. Also, by paying out at the end of the year in salaries including raises, your taxes are Zero on monies used for that.....so you only gain and lose nothing by waiting .

    They give bonuses and raises AFTER net profits have been realized and actual tax savings are realized and the interest garnered by them is realized. Raises and bonuses generally occur after the fiscal year. Btw, I hope you don’t profess to run a business, propbly unto the ground.
     
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    So has someone explained to you how tax withholding works or not?

    Do you now understand you don't have to file your taxes to get a tax cut?
     
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    ha ha
    The country collapses for two reasons; over spending on the less important things, like those driven by fear, and under investing in people like infrastructure and healthcare. Give people clean environments and healthcare they can afford and a solid infrastructure....capitalism then prospers. Capitalism is strongest when based upon the health and well being of the people who buy goods and services. Corporations don’t survive if a middle class family spends $400 a month just on diabetes meds.
     
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    Yes, but you don’t spend your tax cut until your actual net profit is realized....No business does this.

    No one advocates spending money you don’t have, and no one advocates giving up the opportunity to realize a profit from money you do have.
     
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    You sound like Paul Ryan and his “ dynamic scoring” fake math.
    He figured projected growth, not actual growth, into the GOP budget plan. Supply side doesn’t work. Building 8 million widgets and projecting their sale without developing a market for them first, never works. The GOP trickle down which is what you propose, is not Keynesian and doesn’t work. Giving corps and the wealthy huge tax breaks is like giving the biggest dog in the pack a piece of meat and assuming he’ll share it....
     
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    Well, i just got through explaining how payroll taxes work to you.

    I'll help you with basic economics another time
     
  21. MAGA

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    First, you didn't know about tax withholding.

    Now you make it clear you didn't know businesses forcast profit and loss?
     
  22. dagosa

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    Explain it to me. You keep repeating that trite little phrase.
    How many more references do you need that you don’t seem interested in reading ?
     
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    Dodges are not references.

    Businesses actually do spend more or less money based on their projected profit/loss.

    This spending includes hiring, and investing, both of which increase both employment and GDP.

    Profits increase when tax burdens decrease.

    Thus endith the lesson.
     
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    Wake up. If tax cuts work, why do republicans have so many recessions ! You think some how the tax cuts make all the decisions. Where have been sleeping . Corporations have recorded record profits for YEARS. Remember this conversation when the recession hits.....and it will, it always does with republicans. Then, the gap between the middle class and rich grows again. You’ll be asleep, collecting your govt. pension and healthcare.
    You’re into the old trickle down BS.
     
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