Dershowitz: Democrats' Focus on Trump 'Crimes' Will Backfire

The worm is truly turning for our Russian Collusion, TDS friends on the left. Not only are 3 of the 4 issues the Senate Oversight Committee is investigating focused on domestic spying/unmasking by the Obama Adm. , now , more and more Americans are realizing that the entire time that the TDS Russianistas have been sqwauking, no one had mentioned that it was the OBAMA ADM., complete with his Mighty 17 Intell Agencies, that allowed anything that DID happen, to happen.

Collusion is a DEAD ISSUE with everyone but the most rabid, "no facts needed" , leftninny doofi...and now, the Obama chickens are slowly, but surely coming home to roost.

(Psst!! And YES, those Obama/Rice illegal wiretap documents that the sleazoids thought they had "stashed" for 5 years, can ABSOLUTELY be obtained via subpoena and/or court order...

 

What cost her the presidency was not endless investigations - which have followed them both since Bill ran for Arkansas governor. What cost her the presidency is she is highly unlikable and a liar. She is the mother of all deplorables.

That her party put her up to running for president is just unbelievable. Maybe you should change your name to the Donner Party.

 

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Wasn't Mad Cow that said this here but Mika Brzezinski says this verbatim. Catch the end of the clip. Unbelievable. It's OUR job to tell the public what to think, not Trumps.

 

To quote a wise philosopher: That's just funny, rite dere; I don't care who you are.

 

I never called him a republican ? he never made the statement which i was referring to,

And she is unlikable because of the constant accusations and investigations. All of which resulted in nothing but public distrust of her. I would say that was a goal achieved by the right.

I don't defend her, I just point out the facts as they are today.

 

The Clintons have over 30 years of built reputation under their belts. It was not freely given, it's been earned. Of course, none of it good.

 

Again, not defending the Clintons, but what have they been found guilty of ? All of this has been tried in the court of public opinion, while in the actuals court, nothing.

 

How many potential witnesses have mysteriously just up and died?

 

is that proof or conspiracy ?

 

Public opinion is usually derived from what information is available to the public and how well the public deciphers that information.

Every delegate at the DNC convention in Philadelphia knew that Hillary had cheated during the primary race against Bernie Sanders.
But Hillary was still nominated.

 

There was no "cheating". I didn't like what the DNC did, but they are not parity bound to the candidates, the same as the RNC isn't.

Bernie would have been a MUCH better candidate to run against Trump.

 

There was no cheating?

http://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/

 

Depends on what the Democrats goal is. I have heard the same thing bantered about that when it comes to winning elections the Democrats need to offer policies, solutions, ideas and not concentrate on criminal actions or possible criminal actions of Donald Trump. The midterms are a long way off. I'm not sure winning elections is why the Democrats are doing what they are doing. Now if their goal is to slow down Trump's agenda, make it hard for him to get his appointments, pass legislation, etc. Drive down Trump job approval numbers and raise those who think this country is headed in the wrong direction with Trump at its head. I would say the Democrats have been very successful at that.

As for winning elections, looking forward toward the midterms. The Republicans and Trump may be playing into Democratic hands with repeal and replace. Go back to 2010 when 58% of all Americans were against the ACA. The Democrats passed it anyway and look at what happened. 63 house seats lost along with 6 senate seats. This is what happens with a piece of hot legislation when a political party goes against the will and wishes of most Americans. Today 55% of all Americans are against repeal and replace, call it the AHCA or Trumpcare. Could 2018 be a replay of 2010 only in reverse? Time will tell, but I suspect with the passage of the AHCA the Democrats will greatly pull back on the lies and possible crimes of Trump and concentrate on what the people didn't want and ride that into the 2018 midterms just like the Republicans rode the ACA, Obamacare into the 2010 midterms.

We'll have to wait and see, but with something is hot, an issue is hot and on the front burner it is best not to be on the side opposite of most Americans.

 

The DNC, just like the RNC are private entities and they are not parity bound to a candidate.

I don't like that they chose Hillary, but thats not cheating. It is how they, and the RNC have worked since their inception. They don't give money out evenly, and they don't treat the candidates evenly.

 

I agree with most of what you say here, especially the part about what the goal really is. And yes, it's unfortunate that the GOP has been put in a position of having to do something about the healthcare situation. Me, I would have said let the ACA crash and burn and be done with it, but a lot of people would have ended up paying the price for the Obama/Pelosi idiocy. What worries me is that the left has done extremely well at controlling the narrative, so healthcare is now a GOP problem, whether Republicans want it or not, for better or (more likely) worse. As you say, we'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

I think if the AHCA fails, then if those insurance companies pull out of the ACA at the beginning of next year, then the public will want the Republicans to do something about healthcare instead of wanting to keep the ACA as is today. That is quite large ifs. I'm on a what if roll.

I think these Democrats fighting to keep the ACA today could pay a price next year if the dire predictions come true on the ACA. But I have heard these dire prediction before and most never happened. The possibility exist you could have half of Tennessee and Iowa with no insurance companies and as many as ten state with just one for 2018. For those ten states with just one, you take what they have and pay what they ask. That is no choice. Then the question become for 2019 how many of those ten states will lose the one insurance company they had for 2018? How many other states may be down to one or if they lose two or three companies, down to zero?

I don't know the answers as only time can provide that. But fighting to keep the ACA as is seems a bit asinine to me. Maybe it's the name that the Democrats are fighting to retain, Obamacare. I think it is failing and it is only a matter of time that it self destructs. I don't think those 55% of Americans know what lies around the corner when it comes to the ACA. I think they have bought into the Democrats notion of 23 million Americans losing their insurance.

Well, you could have that many lose their insurance in a couple of years or so just by keeping the ACA. I think the best approach is a do nothing approach for the Republicans. For McConnell and Ryan to state they heard the wishes of the American people and are going to leave the ACA in place for now while they continue to work on a replacement. Then next year the mood of America may be much different, then again, who knows?

 

She is unlikable because she is a fake and a phony and a liar. She is unlikable because she is a hater who cannot stop calling the voters disparaging names (her own supporters as well as Trumps) and because she constantly spews vomit.

 

Hillary Clinton was/is a foul, rotten to the core disgusting excuse for walking plasma Beast. I get a chuckle when her boot lickers go off on Trump's antics. He's a Boy Scout comparing apples to apples. I want to see her security clearance stripped forever and if possible, wear an ankle bracelet for a few years electronically chained to her house. Best case would be if she gets sentenced to Martha Stewart's Iron Bar Hilton for a stint. Bill would approve.

 

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