Did women wreck the economy?

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  1. Goomba

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    A long time ago, even in the West, males used to be the main- if not only- bread winners, while women were mainly housekeepers.

    After decades of indoctrinating female children and inculcating them with the idea that “we can do everything that a man can do- and better!” women have taken the lead in terms of filling up the modern workforce. Indeed, these days, it’s pretty common to see graduate classes and business organizations populated mostly by women.

    Of course, when men are sent to die in war, or imprisoned for whatever reasons they’re imprisoned for, what’s usually left behind are the scraps; eg, males with deep insecurity issues and low-self esteem. These males are either playing Warcraft the entire day, or planning up some violent episode (American high-school shootings; Islamist terrorist attacks, etc.) in a desperate attempt to prove their manhood.

    To make matters worse for these “scraps,” since the world is desperate to prove their immense admiration for the female gender, positions that would normally be given to truly confident and capable men, are given to women.

    Yes, whenever the world is faced with a true “alpha male” (like Mr. Trump or Mr. Hitler), he is demonized, ignored, trampled on, yes, everything that they can do to destroy him. They will label him with all sorts of derogatory labels, only because they know that these men pose a threat to their backward, new world order.

    Has the world been too nice to women? I don’t hear anybody talking about the inequalities in the sex industry, where all a woman has to do is wave “hello!” and in return receive hundreds of dollars in funds.

    Should a line be drawn, and if so, how?
     
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    Your OP is very interesting to me because it is so foreign to me. I simply cannot bring myself to think of people, first and foremost, as members of groups rather than individuals. Women? What are your views on race? Do you tend to group people by race also.
     
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    Only when it’s a necessity to do so.
     
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    Now, necessity interests me a great deal. Do you consider immutable characteristics, such as race or gender, to be definitive, contributory or incidental?
     
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    When women entered the workforce, it doubled the supply of labor. Any time you increase the supply of something, it’s value is lessened. That’s basic supply and demand economics.

    Add to that worldwide competition, and labor’s value is cheapened even more.
     
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    I’m of the belief that all racial and gender characteristics cancel each other out on an equal playing field.
     
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    What about the ugly? The most discriminated group of people in human history is, by far, the ugly.
     
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    If the supply of labor is increased while the demand for labor remains steady (or decreases), wages go down no matter what factor increases the supply of labor.

    But women in the labor force is a done deal here, done and over with long ago, not even an issue here.

    What we still can do something about is illegal aliens, and Bloomberg's idea of bringing in foreign college grads who will work cheap and drive down salaries for American college graduates and take the jobs that they would have gotten.
     
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    “Ugly” is a physical characteristic that isn’t rooted in race nor gender. For instance, one can- with the right amount of disposable income- beautify himself with the right products (or surgical procedures). Indeed, racial and gender qualities can aid or stagnate one’s ability to further himself in terms of the physical realm.
     
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    All over the world movie and tv casters quickly reject the ugly except in the case of the scarce roles where an ugly person is required. All over the world in offices the big bosses reject the ugly so as to have scenery that they like better. Even beginning in grade school the ugly are rejected. Even in Sunday school and church the ugly are rejected.
     
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    Women are not the problem, economic growth in the middle and lower class is.
    You could once support a family of four on just making minimum wage — now minimum wage puts you below the poverty level for one person.

    Virtually all of the economic gains made in the past few decades have gone only to the super wealthy.
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    Depends on the area. Engineering, software development, doctors, and upper management are male dominated and these tend to be higher paying. Most of the workforce is still men and men on average are paid more. If you are worried about jobs, worry about outsourcing and automation.
     
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    For some reason, leftist poseurs always annoy me.
     
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    I’m everything. ;)
     
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    It's far from equal. They have way more rights than men
     
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    Consumerist-celebrity culture focused on women as apex consumers has been very good for the economy, but is rotting us slowly from the inside via the social costs.

    Gender based affirmative action is unjust and should be abolished yesterday.

    As far as "did women wreck the economy?" No. Since when is our economy "wrecked?" There was little or no gender element in 2008 either way, but women's lobbies did undoubtedly slow the recovery by diverting stimulus from needed infrastructure.

    Women voting is a requirement of a just Constitutional Republic, but has been the primary lever to power of an overlarge, overpowered, corrupt, incompetent, unjust, exorbitantly expensive gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex. The Complex in its current dangerous form could never have come into existence without female voting. Will women generally grow up politically and stop being manipulated so easily by the Complex? Stay tuned.
     
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    The curve follows the Pareto distribution, which is to be expected of every system...ever. The idea that this problem can be solved is like saying the problems of perpetual motion can be solved.

    Poverty is not real. It's not a real thing. It's a conditional construct. At the same time that you're claiming poverty is increasing in the your isolated system (America), poverty around the world has been cut in half. Do you have to walk 3 miles for a bucket of Giardia infested water? Is your toilet the same place you wash your face? Does your doctor wear a headdress made of feathers and prescribe sex with a virgin to cure AIDS? Or are you poor because you have to take a bus instead of a cab?
     
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    1. Not according to President Trump: “In many ways this is the greatest economy in the HISTORY of America and the best time EVER to look for a job!” he tweeted Monday afternoon. Speaking in the White House Rose Garden on Wednesday, he repeated that this is the “strongest economy we’ve ever had.”
    2. As a person who worked on a committee hiring people for a large employer I note that gender was always at the bottom of what was looked at. The list of qualifications that were looked for were honesty, knowledge, experience, education and work ethic.
    3. Today's economy almost requires a two income household to raise a family for those who are considered "middle class."

    My answer would be that women have been an asset to the economy.
     
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    While you have a point, it is also true that doubling the workforce also doubles GDP, which increases GDP per capita, which raises overall standards of living. the overall calculation is more complex than it may appear at first glance.
     
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    I don’t compare the levels of a first world nation against the levels of a third world nation. When you start having to do that we have fallen spectacularly in the world from where we were.
     
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    Oh no. Believe me dude, there is immutable ugly. In general, people are only racist to the extent that they find others of another race to be ugly. The same goes for gender. The modern feminist movement was started to give unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.

    I'd rather be attractive in any race than ugly in any other.
     
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    What?! Its like you're saying Pareto is an "80/20 Rule" or something. Seriously though, if you could push the bottom of that distribution up you could have some serious improvement all the way up the distribution. Sadly, some idiot will then come along and want to cut the top of the distribution off because "income inequality".
     
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    Me too.
     
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    You’d be surprised what money can do these days. Those nerds who are employed all over silicone valley are have orgies in 7-star hotel rooms. Being ugly only matters in high school.

    Really attractive people tend to be highly insecure, which acts as an impediment to their human advancement. Being handsome is one advantage out of others, but it won’t make or break you.
     
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    Nobody’s holding a gun to your head... ;-)
     

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