Disability from having had even mild Covid - a growing problem

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    I guess I would like to see GP's (physicians, I think you call them in America) factor in the potential for depression/anxiety when presented with Long COVID. ESPECIALLY in younger patients, because they're more likely to be acutely aware of their changed health status than older people more more accustomed to 'aches and pains'. That acute awareness in itself, can be enough to precipiate a first episode of depression or anxiety .. and once that kicks in it, any physiological symptoms can be exacerbated, or even observed (by the patient) differently to their actual presentation. This can confuse and delay recovery, and makes having a good grasp on baselines for Long COVID very difficult.
     
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    My husband's ex-boss went to India for a wedding at the beginning of this; like March/April 2020. He stayed in his mother's house with somewhere around 20 other people. They all got COVID.

    Once he returned to work, his cognitive ability changed dramatically. He could no longer understand what my husband was doing, and couldn't read an email with paragraphs. His team was instructed to only send him bullet points. He had no ability to focus.

    While it did improve some, he never got back to where he was. My husband ended up quitting and going to a new company. The company didn't recognize the problem and the entire team was sinking due to poor leadership. My husband tried a skip level meeting, but it didn't work. When you get towards the VP level in large corporations, the burden of proof gets heavier and heavier. His old team could fall for another year, before the VP figures it out.
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    The damage the vaccine can cause organs is real as well. I know it’s the lesser of two evils however there are some who have even died from it. Others have gotten heart issues. But I am not here to say not get it. I have and I believe it works.
     
  4. crank

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    It's important to remember that those who have cardiac problems in response to the vaccine, are likely those most at risk of more serious cardiac injury resulting from infection. The vaccine is revealing that predispostion, but in a safer and more controlled setting. If you don't know your status (and most of us don't), it's MUCH better to find out via the vaccine, than the virus.
     
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    That sounds like a convalescence exacerbated by the stress of travel, and a too soon return to work. Any significant viral episode (like a bad flu or COVID) requires many weeks to fully recover, despite the perception that it's only a matter of days. Which incidentally, is why we see so much pneumonia - a preventable opportunistic bacterial infection.

    Full recovery means that your entire 'person' needs to recover. Your body AND your mind. A lot of us underestimate the impact of serious illness on mental faculties, and yours is a good example of how that can play out.
     
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    In this case, my husband quit about 19 months after his boss got COVID. He didn't return to work until about six weeks after being diagnosed.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the two dose vaccine, people should pay very close attention to how their body reacts right after the first shot. If they notice anything wrong, they should not get the second shot. Usually any severe reaction does not begin until right after the second shot. (The first shot primes the body to react the second time)

    Unfortunately most people getting these shots are not warned about this at all.
    (And a lot of people wrongly, but totally understandably, assume that any reaction to the second shot will be just the same as the first one)
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? How is that wrong?

    Claiming that people should get the second shot even if they suffered something seriously unusual after the first is irresponsible.
     
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    Six weeks would generally be okay if there were no other impediments to his recovery .. like international travel and/or a high stress job.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's not what you said. And your new epithet "seriously unusual" is quite frankly poor expression.

    You're not in a position to give medical advice on this board.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The argument is simply over semantics. It's a matter of degree.

    Hopefully we can agree on that.

    Sometimes words can be interpreted to have a different meaning by different people.
     
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    Centerfield, I do not understand something I thought I read as I scanned the Lancet study. ('read' is not an accurate descriptor of what I did with those all pages and charts) . In the section with the demographic breakdown of respondents, the percentage of cisgender women was over 75%, while the percentage of cisgender men was 19%. Now I have to be reading this wrong. There is no way that is not a huge red flag. Can you double check the gender demographic breakdown of that study?
     
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    Yep! There are some nasties!
     
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    About one in a million got the ITTS (or vitts or whatever the latest name is )

    The myocarditis has proven to be transitory

    so, what are these other causes of death from the vaccines?
     
  17. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough, I hear you.
     
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