Do white people benefit the most from gun-control?

its so obvious that you have to wonder about people who deny this

if someone plans on committing murder, to think they will be deterred by a background check or will even attempt to buy a gun with one, is contrary to all known reality

 

There is NO right that your government mammy will keep you in your safe space. There are NO guarantees of security in this life. Grow up and realize.

 

Your safety and your security is up to YOU. The police only usually arrive AFTER a murder happens. THAT is just another reason why our 2nd amendment right is so important.

 

You dont stop these mass shootings by making gun free (victim disarmament) zones either. I dont who is trying to carry an AR into schools for expression (did you make that up?), but voluntary CONCEALED carry (by liscenced, trained, practiced, vetted teachers) in schools would be a great preventative to mass shootings.

 

The question I posed was

The obvious context of question was FFL's at gun show. You responded with

You exact answer... nothing about private sales

I followed up with a remark suggesting you read my question carefully... you didn't

Now you change the nature of the question and the context to that of private dealers. That's a dishonest slight of hand... honey.

But, in the exchanges you have proven you know nothing about gun shows, but are doing the dance shuffle thinking you are clever. You represent the anti gun clack well following a dishonest narrative...won't work here.

 

School cops would be better. We don't need to cheap out on our kids

 

years ago, a friend of mine-who was not very political-noted that politics comes down to two sides

those who think they have a duty to take care of themselves vs those who think the government has the primary duty to take care of them. Gun banners tend to be the latter. They want to outsource the responsibility and more importantly the RISK of self defense to the government. people who own guns remind the second group of their timidity and that annoys them,

 

armed private citizens are less likely to miss the bad guy and less likely to hit bystanders than cops.

 

Remember a few years back in NYC? Good grief. And then these same posters will say that the cops are "racist," yet only they should be armed. Lol.

 

They might be racists and shoot the non-white kids.

 

Go live in Japan. Most folks here wouldn't want to live there and most women from here would rebel against the male dominance that pervades Japan.

 

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/the-founding-fathers-explain-the-second-amendment-this-says-it-all

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

“On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence … I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

“To disarm the people…s the most effectual way to enslave them.” – George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788













“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

“…the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone…” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” – William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

 

You are the one continually using playground rules... buzz around with nothing of substance, just playing tag in a game no one else is playing but marking score to be a legend in you own mind.

 

That is such an apt description! Right on point!

 

Why not both?

 

Why not arm the lunch lady, janitor and some of the older kids? Because they are not PROFESSIONALS

 

If the united states were a pure democracy, where the majority opinion was all that counted, slavery would still be legal, homosexualism would still be illegal and punishable by death, and minorities would have no legal standing, nor would they be in any sort of leadership position. Legislation against hate crimes would not exist. It would be a united states dominated exclusively by white individuals.

It is not a united states that would be supported by yourself.

 

Considering no one knows for certain if a parachute is reliable until the moment the cord is pulled during a jump, it is a very fitting analogy to make.

However it does not change the fact that seventy five percent is closer to one hundred percent than it is zero percent. Nor does it change the confirmed fact that the number of homicides committed with handguns increased after there was not a single legal handgun to be found in the city.

Do you dispute that fact? Do you assert that the number of handgun-related homicides decreased, and that the statistics garnered from police reports and FBI investigations are incorrect?

Thus meaning that simply because there is a claim for support of greater firearm restrictions, does not mean that there is indeed support for such.

Off topic and irrelevant.

Do you claim that the majority of homicides in the united states do not involve handguns, even though available statistics prove such?

As opposed to comparing the data of differing countries to sell a narrative?

Which is not relevant to the fact that the number of handgun-related homicides increased after handgun ownership was outlawed.

 

Any firearm with a serial number is traceable. That is why obliterating the serial number is a federal offense.

How will you prevent the acquisition of firearms by prohibited individuals who rely on acts of theft?

 

Cop shot a whole mag (of simunition 'soap' rounds) at me in training from 10 feet. Missed em all. Was a 'professional.'
Another one (in the same training) shot me before I exhibited any violent or threatening behavior. Was a 'professional.'
These were Feds, btw, with more training, vetting and higher hiring standards than most local PDs.
You have a lot of faith in 'the system' dont you?

 

More than I do some wannabe Rambo who teaches 3rd grade english

 

'Wannabe rambo' is more likely to join LE or private security than teach 3rd grade English...

 

And yet he will be psychologically screened, closely supervised and highly trained. Not perfect but better than a weekend warrior

 

lmao. do you know many cops?

Intelligence is screened out in many depts because they dont want to waste training on someone who may move on to better things. The psychlogical preferences are for people with controlling and violent personalities but will follow orders. Supervision typically is miles away at dispatch.

'Officer friendly' got transferred to a desk long ago. Many PDs (especially in Urban centers) are hiring the 'wannabe rambos' and the police unions are helping them literally get away with murder.

I dont hate cops, to be clear, theres a lot of good ones out there, but less and less of them as we continue to militarize the police.

Are you familiar with the 'shoot first' curriculum of LE firearm training?

 

I await your evidence. If we don't trust cops then why have them at all