Do You Believe In Racially Profiling Muslims At Airports?

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Do You Believe In Racially Profiling Muslims At Airports?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I don't know/I don't want to answer

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  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    Well, one way or another, many people are going to stereotype Muslims as terrorists and suicide bombers because of the amount of innocents killed by Muslim terrorists and suicide bombers... and, of course, we all remember 9/11.

    Is it right to suspect a Muslim is going to blow up your plane? Should extra suspicion and precautions be taken by police and airport security to ensure all Muslims and only Muslims are searched to prevent them sneaking explosives or weapons on board?
     
  2. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

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    I agree that it makes sense to target people fitting the profile of a potential terrorist, but there is a sizeable fraction of the Muslim population that does not fit that profile and should not be targeted. And of the remaining percentage, actual checks should be based on demeanor and/or background information that would lead one to suspect he (or she) was a greater risk than the next guy.
     
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    What is a 'race'? Marathon? 100 yards? What insane drivel people do talk.
     
  4. Unifier

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    Technically the premise of this thread is flawed as Islam is a religion so you cannot really racially profile for it. What you are doing is more racially profiling for suspicious looking Arabs. Although they are not always the only Muslim terrorists as we have seen. Sometimes Muslim terrorists come in other flavors.

    Now, having said that, I believe in logical profiling across the board in all areas of law enforcement. In other words, if you know what you are looking for, you look for that. If you are looking for someone that looks like Verne Troyer (Mini-Me from Austin Powers), you don't interrogate Yao Ming. That's ridiculous.

    While greater attention should be paid to Arabs since history has obviously shown them to be the predominant culprits in our airplane bombings, authorities should always be looking for anyone of any appearance whose actions seem suspicious. In the end, actions are more of tip-off than anything.

    Part of me just has to shake my head that I am even having to explain this. It's just common sense that should all be puncuated with, "Duh!" I really feel like I'm Luke Wilson in Idiocracy a lot of the time on this forum.

    (That last part was not directed at you OP. It was more for the people here that will try to argue that Yao Ming and Mother Teresa and Ru Paul and Napoleon Dynamite should all be equally interrogated if the perpetrator looks like Mini-Me)
     
  5. Paul810

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    How can you racially profile Muslims? They are not a race.

    I voted yes though because obviously those who are more likely to commit acts of terrorism should have to go through tougher security. That is just unfortunate for those who mean no harm to anyone.
     
  6. dudeman

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    Is this really a question if USA military forces are removed from the Arab countries? If the USA were really at war with "terrorism", why haven't there been more incidents like the terrorist shootings in India? Ten years and no terrorist incidents since the world trade center bombings? Really? Is the USA that good or are we fighting an imaginary foe?
     
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    I voted yes..and especially for women and children..since the MUSLIMS trying to hurt America will use them..and since we are foolish not to profile..that might be the easiest way.

    It is like saying to profile our southern border for brown skin people.
    Well 90 % that smuggle across breaking the law are brown skinned people..

    Not Swedes with long blonde curly hair...and beards..
    If the Swedish religious zealots started terror tactics I might start profiling Ollie and Lena also.

    It would be easier with Lena wearing a shirt saying .."I am with Ollie and Sven .. the radical terrorist from Sweden " :)
     
  8. Nate

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    Treat it like a science experiment. To improve your chances on catching "terrorists", which group of people would you check? The answer is quite clear.
     
  9. What is free

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    If you give all your attention to the front door, they'll just slip through the back.
     
  10. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If I was a Muslim, in order to avoid discrimination, I'd dress like an average American, dye my hair if needed, and carry a Bible.

    Thank God such crap would not be accepted over here.
     
  11. Nate

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    We'll see how many do that.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Book 'em, Dano!

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    Good ol' Ted kazynski shouldn't get hassled when he flies!!

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    And why bother this nice old man at the airport, Andrew Kehoe, age 55 when he blew up an elementary school killing 38 children and a dozen adults and injuring 58 more!

    Maybe the first Tea Partyier, he was upset over property taxes!

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    And THIS guy ONLY bombs churches with children in them, NOT airplanes! He can sure fly!

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    And this sweet guy uses the USPS to mail his bioterrorism germs, so he's certainly OK to fly!
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  15. PatrickT

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    Of course I don't agree with profiling Muslims. I think we should stick with 85-year old grandmothers and 6-year old kids. And don't forget the conservative veterans we were warned about.

    And while we're at it, I'm tired of males being profiled every time the police are looking for a rapist.
     
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    If only a liberal could understand what profiling really means. Profiling is not usually about race, while it can involve race, it usually is drawn from dress, appearance, attitude, mannerisms, behavior. The most profiled people are those who are out of place, who have a suspicious behavior, while I understand that racial profiling happens and continues to happen, generally those who are trained correctly understand that race alone is a poor determiner for a profile.
     
  17. PatrickT

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    Profiling is actually about playing the odds. If a police officer is sent on a prowler call at 2 a.m. the odds are overwhelming the prowler will be a male. If a black male is shot at a concert the odds are overwhelming the culprit is another black male. In looking for a serial murderer the odds are it's a white male. If a husband is murdered in the home the odds are it's the wife and vice versa. Are the odds ever absolute? Rarely.
     
  18. Zook

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    Well, that was the case in the 1980s. But it's changed now. If there's a serial killer prowling today, it's more than likely a black male.
     
  19. submarinepainter

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    where are your facts?
     
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    You think Zook is a liberal?!
     
  21. Zook

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    Okay, how about this...

    You name every single White serial killer discovered, arrested or that has killed in America since the year 2000 and I'll name every single black one that in the same situation.

    Deal?

    I promise you won't win. [​IMG]
     
  22. PatrickT

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    Not true. The beltway sniper is the only one who comes to mind.
     
  23. PatrickT

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    That would be my guess.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals DO understand what "profiling is", and NONE that I know of OPPOSE "profiling"!

    What many oppose, and what the Constitution opposes as well, is "RACIAL profiling", which is not only illegal and unconstitutional, it is also stupid, pointless and ineffectual.

    The idea that terrorists, including Islamic terrorists, are going to show up dressed in turbins and robes with Koran in hand, mumbling "Allah Akbar" is simply absurd.

    It didn't happen on 911, and it hasn't happened since.

    If you see someone dressed as an "arab" or whatever you want to call it, relax! Chances are excellent they are not a "terrorist"!

    Now Ted Bundy, well, he would listen to your troubles very sympathetically.....

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