Do you support eugenics?

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  1. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Someone confusing eugenics with racism would be exhibit A.
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    What about "equality"

    First it starts with supporting equality, moves onto Communism, before you know it then they're mass murdering people who are too advanced like the Kulaks, and killing people who oppose, as they steal your food supplies to buy weapons, as people die in mass famine.
     
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    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    If you bothered to have read the first page before replying, you would have read the poster supports positive eugenics.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya everyone else is dumb except you. :roll:
     
  5. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    I for one am deeply concerned with the fate of the World, as dumb people over generation, and generation keep having more kids, I think it's a recipe for disaster.
     
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    Such issues are too complex to be helped by eugenics, I think. I'd support combating various hereditary disorders that way, though. A little gene therapy and maybe we could do away with corrective lenses and eye surgery!
     
  7. rayznack

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    So what if there are other qualities? That simply means they could be be included as well.

    You're not criticizing eugenics; you're merely qualifying one's support for eugenics.

    I won't bother with whether what you claimed is actually accurate.

    I figure I have point this out to you as you are someone who didn't understand the differences in meaning between 'accuracy' and 'precision' before trying to correct me.
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    The masses got right on board with the Nazis, Communists, Colonialism, and now with White replacement.
    (A lot of unfortunate misery, which illustrates by OP 100% about the elites being too wicked, and the masses being too stupid)

    I mean gee, it seems most people just do as they're told, because they're too dumb to think for themselves.

    Sure, there's some smart people here, and there, but even many of them just do as they're told too.
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    We already practiced eugenics with Domesticated Animals, we bred Dogs away from Wolves, and we even euthanize them when they're nuts, or unwanted.

    It's as if we want to improve Animals, more than Humanity.
     
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    If there's no correlation between artistry and creativity with IQ, then selecting for higher IQ people won't affect artistic talent.

    So, the same number of artists will remain in society.

    So, what's your point?
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So...what happens when the State categorizes YOU as 'dumb?'
     
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    What happens to those who are wrongly executed? ie. ultimately cleared when proved they didn't commit murder or steal a car? What do you tell the family of the executed?
     
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    The PISA scores are tested more frequently nowadays than IQ scores, and PISA scores show that nations like the U.S.A, Britain, and Sweden are collapsing intellectually at a rather rapid rate.

    Considering that information, I wouldn't be surprised if the IQ scores have dropped too.

    The IQ of Irish Americans, German Americans, and Italian Americans dropped during the 1960's - 1970's.

    Who knows what's going on now, and it's probably only getting worse.
     
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    What is 'White replacement?' Who told you that eugenics is a good idea? Aren't YOU just 'doing as you are told' by eugenicists?
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    I've specifically said that I'm only for taxing dumb people more, if they have kids.

    I didn't say anything about sterilization, much less murder.

    I just think certain peoples should have it harder to reproduce, to benefit society.

    Why is that bad?

    What benefits SOCIETY, BENEFITS US ALL.

    Western European society is clearly WAY too individualist, and it clouds their judgement.

    I think individualists are ruining the West, they think not about society, but about judging individuals, they clearly don't care about collectives that ruin society.

    That's clearly a recipe for disaster, an it's no wonder why Western society is in decline.
     
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    White people are slowly, but surely being replaced in multiculturalism.
    (Definitely the biggest evil of our times)

    Eugenics can clearly be used to breed better beings, we already did so with Dogs, so why don't we do such with Humans?

    That's nothing to do with brainwashing, that's just reality.

    Considering society frowns upon eugenics so much, then yes, absolutely supporting eugenics is more likely to be based on believing ones own opinion, rather than the opinion of others who tell us what to believe.
     
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    Who or what do you consider 'white?' Do you base in on skin color and culture?

    Well the most obvious rebuttal would be that Humans are not dogs. BTW despite all the breeding, ALL dogs are mostly Wolf.

    Well..you did use the term 'eugenics' which is a term created by others so, in effect, you are relying on the opinion of others. Unless you can claim you came up with the philosophy all on your own. In any case, individual opinions are rather meaningless unless one can gather a forum.
     
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    How do you figure that?

    Polish Americans scored a 109 IQ vs 103 for White Americans.

    37.5% of Polish Americans have a bachelors degree, or higher, as opposed to 30% of White Americans.

    The median household income of Polish Americans is $66,800, as opposed to $57,300 for White Americans.

    The poverty rate of Polish Americans is 7%, as opposed to 10% for White Americans.
     
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    eastern Europe and Russia have VERY different standards for "poverty", than the USA.

    what we in the USA call "poverty", Russia calls "middle class".

    no doubt its the same with Poland.

    poverty in the USA means individual income less than $900 a month.

    I bet its $400 in Poland.
     
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    I think ALL ethnic groups should be preserved.

    To oppose such is evil.

    Yeah, Dogs are mostly Wolf genetically, but their mentality, is obviously way different.

    Some Dogs are obviously much more social, peaceful, and intelligent than Wolves.

    The same could obviously be done with Humans, if we wanted to do such.

    But, too many Humans have obviously been kicking, and screaming about that.

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    I'm talking about Polish Americans though.
     
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    Eugenics was acceptable until the 1950s and Rosemary Kennedy was one of the victims of the backward ideology. JFK’s troubled sister Rosemary was left completely disabled by a disastrous lobotomy and she was unable to form a sentence and partially paralysed. Rosemary's only crime was being intellectually disabled. The Holocaust was initially a government policy to euthanize disabled people.

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    I don't support eugenics.

    What does that question have to do with the fact you couldn't have bothered to read page 1 before responding and still seem clueless as to what two posters here who have articulated their views actually propose?
     
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    I asked you what you consider the definition of 'white' to be. I suggested culture and skin color. In addition you pivoted from 'culture' to 'ethnicity' two different concepts.

    Of course humans are 'kicking and screaming' about being told who, how and when to breed...That's because they are not DOGS!!
     
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    Where did I say a single thing about murdering anyone?
     
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    Northern Europeans are White, Southern Europeans are kind of White.

    So, there we go, it makes sense to improve Dogs, but not Humans.

    Why is that?

    Where's the rationale?
     

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