Does God Have Free Will?

Well since you can't seem to make a significant post and only use ad hom attacks there is no need to respond. I have soundly defeated you and you are acting like a sore loser. If you make a post worthy of responding to I will respond.

Regards,
DB

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Your post is complete and utter nonsense. Make one that is coherent and I will respond. No need in wasting time on you.

 

Your limited entertainment value has worn off.

IGNORE

 

There are now only two options; you are either a troll whose only purpose is to disrupt and prevent conversations from happening or these conversations are simply beyond you and you respond out of complete ignorance of this fact.

Either way this is my thread and if you cannot actually address the questions presented to you then you are off topic and don't belong in it. Prove you can participate or I'll have you removed which is something I've never had to do before and the bar was already set pretty damn low.

 

not a minute too seen

 

I have never placed anyone on actual ignore. I may miss out on laughs.
But I certainly do ignore posts that have no value and just troll. Especially if they are of the juvenile type.

 

That's why I will switch to Mathematics and Probability. LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

I could have sworn I answer a question like this from you upon another topic...Ow...well....first of all you don't understand what a Dimension is....a dimension is NOT another Divergent Alternate Universal State as this is the manner you are using the word Dimension.

A Dimension is simple a term of Geometry as our Universe exists as at MINIMUM 10-D or 11-D and is probably more.

I am sure you understand at least 4-D which is basically Length, Width, Depth and Time.

The thing is 4-D or four dimensional Universal States are not enough dimensions for such things as Photons and Electrons and other Quantum Particle/Wave Forms to exist as these Quanta COMPLETELY COMPRISE all MATTER AND ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE.....as well we could not have Frequency thus you and I could not tune in our favorite radio channel unless our Universe had at MINIMUM 10-D or 11-D.

These Dimensional states have data and mathematics supporting their existence and even more obvious proof exists telling us at least 10-D or 11-D Universal Space-Time existence is a reality....your ability to see COLOR....the existence of various Electromagnetic Energy Particle/Wave Forms existing at various frequency such as IR-Light, Radio waves, X-ray....etc.

But in all this there does not exist any proof in any way that a GOD exists or does not exist EXCEPT the Mathematical Possibility that a GOD might exist within a different Universal Baseline Group not associated with our Baseline Group in an Infinite System.

Probability dictates and EXTREMELY HIGH PROBABILITY that IF a GOD existed it would not be anything like what any Human Religious ideals or concepts have considered or stated a GOD to be.

AboveAlpha

 

What does free will have to do with changing one's mind? If you were perfect, you would use your free will to make a decision and, being perfect, that decision would be correct. Since the decision was correct, you would not change your mind, even though you had the ability to do so.

 

Quantum Mechanics and Mathematics dictates that since a Quantum Particle/Wave Form function and existence is dependent upon observation as mere observation changes the outcome....for every choice being made by a person there must be another or infinite Divergent Universal Reality where the person chooses the opposite or completely different choice or does not choose at all.

AboveAlpha

 

Uh huh. And have experiments shown that God's means of observation has the same effect? Or how about this, what if God already made all the decisions prior to the universe existing? Then observation would not be an issue at all.

 

Math and Vodka maybe, if you are doing proof.

 

When you say make a decision what do you mean? Was God contemplating various options because if he's perfect there are no options, there is no choice and therefore no need to make a decision there would simply be the act of perfection. To add free will to the nature of God is like adding an imperfection.

Can God choose not to be God?

 

There does not currently exist any proof mathematically or otherwise either supporting a GOD existing or not....thus your questions are premature.

There is however and extremely high probability that a GOD existing in the manner taught by any of the 4 Major World Religions, Christianity, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu...does not exist and an extremely low probability that such a GOD or GODS exist.

AboveAlpha

 

I like Extra Dry Vodka Martini's Straight Up with 3 olives.

You take a chilled glass and put in a drop of Vermouth swirl it around then throw it out and then poor in the chilled Vodka.

In Russia we just put a drop of Vermouth in a bottle of Vodka and do this with one for each Man and leave the bottles outside in the snow!!! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

But that's not the subject of the thread, is it? I think in order to contemplate God's free will, one must, for the sake of argument, assume his existance, or else what are we talking about?

 

I agree...why are we talking about it?

AboveAlpha

 

I think you are assuming quite a bit here. First, that there is only one way to achieve God's goal. Second, that God's goal was to create "an act of perfection", or even that there is such a thing as an "act of perfection". What does perfection mean in a general sense, anyway?

Only if you think there's something wrong with free will.

Can you choose not to be yourself? Does the lack of that choice mean you don't have free will?

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Because it is topic of the thread. A better question would be, why are talking about quantum physics in this thread?

 

This topics question is the same as asking...."What does a 1 cm high pink and purple mini-elephant like better either tiny berries or blades of grass?

Since we as of yet do not have the capability to search in a manner the entire Planet to prove that such an 1 cm tall pink and purple mini-elephant does not exist there will still remain a possibility that one does exist.

But the silliness of thinking it does exist due to the extremely low probability it does based upon our known sciences and animal specific development knowledge....makes it ridiculous to be even asking whether such an unproven and highly improbable mini-elephant prefers to eat!!!! LOL!!!

Same thing with this topics question.

AboveAlpha

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Because aspects of Quantum Mechanics were needed to detail an explanation specific to this topics ridiculousness.

AboveAlpha

 

I think you just wanted to find a way to work QM into the conversation. But since you did, how about responding to the point that God's decision may have required no observation, and/or may have occurred before the existance of the universe.

 

An OBSERVATION will occur even if something is just considered or thought about.

AboveAlpha

 

You seem to be redefining observation. Well apparently we have observational evidence that God exists, then, since we are thinking about it.

 

What I mean is that there is attempted observation of a Quantum Particle/Wave Form and then there is OBSERVATION of a CHOICE.

A choice is determined from thought analysis thus the aspects of Quantum Mechanics within whatever construct or form making a choice for an action or decision is MENTALLY OBSERVED.

Same Principle.

AboveAlpha

 

A lot of fancy sounding words, but even though all this talk of Divergent Universal Reality might make a good Star Trek or Fringe episode, it's just speculation.

 

It has not been definitively proven but we have a great deal of Mathematics to back it as well it explains Quantum Mechanics and as well we even have experiments that provide proof such as the Double Slit Experiment and as well we even use PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS OF QUANTUM MECHANICS that could only be driven by a Multiversal System.

Your cell phone is a perfect example.

AboveAlpha

 

OK, I'll bite. Why will my cell phone only work if there are multiple universes?