Dr. Anthony Fauci: 'Of Course' I Would Use Chloroquine on Coronavirus Patients

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lot of politicians on the left and the right suffer from that disease named after Trump (Trump is patient zero)
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    did not say it was - but we have a limited quanity of the drug and we do not know if it works, should we really prescribe it like candy to everyone that doesn't want to get Corona
     
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    Sure from the Party of controlling women's bodies.
     
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    I'm not a Republican, it just looks ten times worse coming from the party who supposedly fought that. You realize that edicts banning medical treatments means opposing both men and female choices right?
     
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    Your metaphor is absurd.

    Is that what you were trying for?
     
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    "That entire "narrative" is a complete mischaracterization of Whitmer's letter."

    How so?
     
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    I suspect it's intended to show that Fauci isn't a Trump supporter.
     
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    Except she didn't ban CHOOSING it she banned HOARDING it.
    From the previously provided link:
    The agency’s March 24 letter warns physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine). Beyond the rational recommendation against hoarding as production of this medication needs to be ramped up
     
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    "for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine(and chloroquine.)". That part also stands out. It's clear that it's an edict that says "don't prescribe these medications."

    Which means its against choice. In this country we should be free to choose, in collaboration especially with our doctors and those treating us as Dr. Fauci said.

    It's CNN/MSNBC making a mole out of a molehill during a very important time.
     
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    You're misreading that.
     
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    That part is a BrightFart perversion of the letter, which you would have known if you took the time to click on the link and read it for yourself rather than let biased known liars read it for you.
    Directly from the previously linked letter:
    March 24, 2020
    TO: Licensed Prescribers & Dispensers
    RE: Reminder of Appropriate Prescribing and Dispensing

    Dear Licensed Prescribers and Dispensers: The Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs has received multiple allegations of Michigan physicians inappropriately prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to themselves, family, friends, and/or coworkers without a legitimate medical purpose. Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating COVID-19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are proven treatments. Reports of this conduct will be evaluated and may be further investigated for administrative action. Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the patient is being treated.
     
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    And how exactly should it be read, pray tell?????
     
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    "Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating COVID-19"

    And how would said proof be attained without actually prescribing/using the drug?

    There's no defending it, the Michigan governor wanted to dictate who is prescribed what. And I strongly and flatly disagree with her decision as a resident of the State. We Michiganers and ultimately we Americans decide our own fate, in conjunction with our doctors(if we're consciously able) during the course of treatment.

    I don't need her babysitting what's possible for me or not. I've gotten far in life without the nanny state.
     
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    the Right always take a few words out of context and create their own phony context. Nowhere does it say you can't use it for a REAL medical condition, but taking it as a prophylactic BEFORE you have a medical need or hoarding it for future use or sale is what is forbidden, as shown by the words you ignored, "Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the patient is being treated."
     
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    Of course, but testing is not required in order for a coronavirus sufferer to be prescribed it by their GP.
     
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    I don't.

    Is anyone in this thread saying that?

    The Chinese study showed that it was harmful, or something else?
     
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    I would not use at this time, but if one wants too, let them and track their results, we need volunteers to be the guinea pigs in testing

    people though should be informed, before they make such a choice
     
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    Well whether people ARE being tracked by some sort of national system that their GP plugs into I'm not sure. It would certainly seem like a good idea.

    Yeah, well that's what GP's are for.
     
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    OK. Maybe you're right. I cant find the actual regulation, but this was lifted directly from a press release from the Governor's office:

    "The regulation prohibits the prescribing and dispensing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for a COVID-19 diagnosis..."

    Link to PDF of letter:

    https://nvhealthresponse.nv.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.24-pharmacy-drugs_.pdf
     
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    You did refer to it as an experimental drug, it is not. No one said it should be handed out like candy. Why when called out, you then resort to the most extreme thing you can?
     
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    Wake up, this goes so far behind that. Two governors are banning the use of a medicine in their state that can possibly save lives, all in the name of Trump hate. You know it, stop acting like you don't. How can any governor tell a doctor what medicine can be used. If this were reversed, I can only imagine what you'd have to say about it. This is so ridiculous and when people like you write it off, it's more telling than ever how you really are.
     
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    Judging by some of the things you've defended lately, I'm going to call your BS. If it was you or a close family member who wasn't expected to live, you'd be begging for that drug. Anyone would. So I guess patients in NV or MI would have to be transported to another state who's governor doesn't have so much hate for Trump that they would refuse life-saving medication to dying patients.

    I can't believe we are even having this debate. You dems are mind blowing in the worst way.
     
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    You realize that is NEVADA and NOT Michigan so you have the wrong state and the wrong governor, but you knew that already because the Right know everything and everyone else is a low-information voter.
     
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    Now I remember why I normally ignore your posts.
     
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    Imagination seems to be the realm of Trump worshippers, particularly susceptible to the sales pitch of a snake oil salesman.

    Others eschew emotionally-driven blind faith in miracle elixirs, and respect empirical data.

    Trump , who insists upon continually passing copious quantities of gas concerning matters in which he has no expertise...
    Amidst conflicting studies, Fake Don is hyping its effectiveness. The truth is that it may or may note be of value.

    At a briefing on Thursday, Trump said chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine had been approved by the Food and Drug Administration to treat the coronavirus. But shortly after, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn contradicted Trump, saying that the FDA would need to determine that in a clinical trial. The drug has not been approved for COVID-19 patients.

    Fauci clarifies that chloroquine evidence is 'anecdotal'

    With confusion about the drugs' efficacy in treating the coronavirus swirling and public demand spiking, reporters asked for clarification at Friday's White House briefing about whether the drugs were known treatments for COVID-19.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, responded bluntly: "The answer is no, and the evidence that you're talking about ... is anecdotal evidence.

    "We're trying to strike a balance between making something with a potential of an effect to the American people available, at the same time that we do it under the auspices of a protocol that would give us information to determine if it's truly safe and truly effective," Fauci said. "But the information that you're referring to specifically is anecdotal, it was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can't make any definitive statement about it."
     
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